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No reason to get rude at each other <span class="moz-smiley-s7"><span>
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I think Chris has written a good motivation on the "why not to nominate
OSM people", <br>
one that is just as valuable as a strong "why to nominate one of the
OSM people" which is indeed lacking at this moment.<br>
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I must say that after reading the response from Chris, I think we
indeed need far better arguments if we want to nominate OSM-people. <br>
Frank Warmerdam is one of my personal heroes too. I admire Frank for
the way opensource projects where I often find his name attached have
poistioned. A lot of the projects are now stable, active and well
adapted.<br>
I really am a big fan of OSM too, but it needs a bit of shaping where
it comes to being professional, having a good organization structure
and setting solid standards. This in particular makes it the more
interesting to be part of the OSM community, tto watch and help it
shape to become top of the bill.<br>
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Mikel Maron schreef:
<blockquote cite="mid:536341.5876.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com"
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<pre wrap="">Thankfully Chris is not on the committee choosing the award and the members of the committee are most likely more openminded.
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From: Christopher Schmidt <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:crschmidt@metacarta.com"><crschmidt@metacarta.com></a>
To: Corey Burger <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:corey.burger@gmail.com"><corey.burger@gmail.com></a>
Cc: OSM-dev <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dev@openstreetmap.org"><dev@openstreetmap.org></a>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 1:49:09 PM
Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Sol Katz OSGEO award
On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 09:43:20AM +0200, Corey Burger wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On 8/15/07, Christopher Schmidt <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:crschmidt@metacarta.com"><crschmidt@metacarta.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 03:26:36PM +0200, Milo van der Linden wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I think OpenStreetMap is a perfect candidate for this award!
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Sol_Katz_Award">http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Sol_Katz_Award</a>
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<pre wrap="">"The Sol Katz Award for Geospatial Free and Open Source Software (GFOSS)
is awarded annually by OSGeo to *individuals who have demonstrated
leadership* in the GFOSS community."
OpenStreetMap is not an individual. If you were to nominate someone, you
would need to nominate a *person*, not the organization.
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<pre wrap="">Shall we nominate one of the people from OSM then? Steve? Imi? Richard F?
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<pre wrap=""><!---->
I see all those people as being wonderful leaders of the OpenStreetMap
project, and in some cases perhaps even leadership in the open geo data
community -- but I don't see OSM, or any of those individuals, as
demonstrating leadership in the Geographic Free Open Source Software
community.
FrankW (a previous winner of the award) has been working on a single,
unified data abstraction layer for geodata for 10 years. Markus Neteler
has been working on GRASS for many years as well, and has moved the
software to being the essential Open Source GIS analysis project.
I don't think that OSM has its goals in open source software
development: the attitude taken by the OSM project of "OSM is not GIS"
seems representative here, and I'd say that's evidence enough that
nominations for OSM developers for the Sol Katz award does not make much
sense, from my point of view.
Regards,
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