<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi,<div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><blockquote type="cite">I started trying the first options but it is way to slow. Probably <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">because some never requested tiles also have to be rendered on the <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">server first?<br></blockquote>Exact. I don't think it's a good idea anyway without asking the server admin.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>That will put a constant load on the server and prevent other users to have a<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>responsive answer to their browsing.<br></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I just found this similar post:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2009-March/014331.html">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2009-March/014331.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>I guess I should go with rendering tiles on my own.</div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><blockquote type="cite">I already have the planet file <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">loadet into a PostGIS-DB<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Does anybody know how many GB the whole world is? Or Germany?<br></blockquote><br>Doesn't your Operating System support "display disk usage" of a directory ?<br><br>Maybe I don't understand your question...<br><br>I'm working on the europe extract and I count around 3 times the uncompressed<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>osm file or 30 times the compressed one (using osm2pgsql in slim mode)<br>but dispending of your method it may vary very much.<br><br>Or you mean tiles on disk usage ?<br></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>yes, that is what I meant. The size for the tiles. I could also calculate it myself, assuiming an average files size of 13kB per 256x256 png</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><blockquote type="cite">How long would it take to render on a quite powerfull desktop-machine?<br></blockquote>3 seconds for zoom 0<br>3 times the age of the universe at zoom 30<br><br>That all dispend on the max zoom you want.</span></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">As a rapid guess on germany at max-zoom 16 I bet it would take around 2 days<br></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I would want it for zoom up to zoom level 17.</div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><br><blockquote type="cite">Or are there any other ideas on how to get such a big amount of data?<br></blockquote><br>See why almost no-one renders in advance every thing up to zoom 18 by<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>reading :<br><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mod_tile">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mod_tile</a><br><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Slippy_Map">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Slippy_Map</a></span></blockquote><br></div><div><br></div><div>I know why it does not make sense to render everything in advance, but in my case I need the data instantly because the map will move very fast.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks a lot for your help. I guess I will just try Mapnik. Does anyone know if there is a mobile style for Mapnik which looks similar to the Cloudmade mobile style?</div><div><br></div><div>-Ivo</div><br></div></body></html>