Hi Stefan, thanks for your e-mail,<br>I hope you don't mind this : I've added your links to <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapping_indoor_and_outdoor_human_sized_objects#Around_other_mapping_standards.2Fsolutions.2Fdatasets" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapping_indoor_and_outdoor_human_sized_objects#Around_other_mapping_standards.2Fsolutions.2Fdatasets</a><br>
(you land there by typing indoor mapping in <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org</a>'s search engine).<br><br>My team's finished its Geopard end-of-studies project. You can look it up here : <a href="http://geoparden.wordpress.com" target="_blank">http://geoparden.wordpress.com</a><br>
<br>The Point Zero X project (<a href="http://web.me.com/sachinio/pzx/Home.html">http://web.me.com/sachinio/pzx/Home.html</a> <= I found this link on
<a href="http://dev.ifs.hsr.ch/indoorwps/wiki" target="_blank">http://dev.ifs.hsr.ch/indoorwps/wiki</a> ) seems to be similar to Geopard : wifi geopositioning for a university campus, but Point Zero X has more geopositionned-services than Geopard (geopard only gives per-university room daily schedule, while Point Zero X gives associated lectures content and chatrooms).<br>
<br>what server stack do the Point Zero X & IndoorWPS projects use ? an OGC server like mapserver/geoserver/arcgis ?<br>The latest (end of january) Geopard release uses an OSM stack that was assembled on top of an ubuntu 8.04 EBS AMI. <br>
<br>I'm proposing anyone to ask me for an access to amazon EC2 snapshot of the Geopard server. The OSM stack has these landmarks : <br>- <<localhost (not from <a href="http://osm.org">osm.org</a>)>> minutely Rails-port/osmosis read-replication-interval (rri) => postgis db<br>
- increased rendering zoom levels (22 instead of 17) thanks to a modified mod_tile/renderd build<br>- 1 mod_tile tileset = 1 .xml file per buidling level<br>- a sample openlayers viewer page to switch display between level layers<br>
<br>I really feel that there's a lack of indoor (wifi or other) geopositioning projects which do not contain any patent :<br>For example here :<a href="http://www.skyhookwireless.com/flash/loader_howitworks.swf" target="_blank"> http://www.skyhookwireless.com/flash/loader_howitworks.swf</a> ; if you read closely you'll find that their geopositioning algorithm (server-side) is patented and also unfortunately, their wifi beacons database is closed source.<br>
<br>That's about the same for Ekahau, Aeroscout and Mapume I think. About your wifi-geopositioning technology, is it open source ?<br>Ours (Geopard's) is, but is not released yet.<br><br>Jonathan-David Schröder<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Stefan Keller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sfkeller@gmail.com" target="_blank">sfkeller@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Salut Jonathan-David<br>
<br>
Just stumbled over your thread.<br>
<br>
Our Indoor WPS project is perhaps something interesting for your project:<br>
<a href="http://dev.ifs.hsr.ch/indoorwps/wiki" target="_blank">http://dev.ifs.hsr.ch/indoorwps/wiki</a> . We're on a very experimental<br>
phase but look especially at the Community Server and Service.<br>
<br>
And perhaps don't forget to mention<br>
<a href="http://www.opengeospatial.org/pressroom/pressreleases/1122" target="_blank">http://www.opengeospatial.org/pressroom/pressreleases/1122</a><br>
(<a href="http://www.ogcnetwork.net/node/624" target="_blank">http://www.ogcnetwork.net/node/624</a> ) there especially IndoorML and<br>
the Open Floor Plan Project (although IndoorML proposal is far too<br>
complicated in my opinion and Open Floor Plan not yet open and ready<br>
compared to ours).<br>
<br>
Yours, Stefan<br>
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Stefan Keller, Professor for Information Systems<br>
Institute for Software and GISpunkt<br>
University of Applied Sciences Rapperswil (HSR)<br>
CH-8640 Rapperswil, Switzerland<br>
<a href="http://www.ifs.hsr.ch" target="_blank">www.ifs.hsr.ch</a> and <a href="http://www.gis.hsr.ch" target="_blank">www.gis.hsr.ch</a><br>
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2009/11/30 Jonathan-David SCHRODER <<a href="mailto:jonathan.schroder@gmail.com" target="_blank">jonathan.schroder@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
<div><div></div><div>> Hello,<br>
> I am working on a student project (team of 6 people) whose goal is to build<br>
> a solution allowing mobile devices to display indoor data along with wifi<br>
> geopositioning. (I am willing citing this because contrary to<br>
> <a href="http://www.micello.com" target="_blank">http://www.micello.com</a> or <a href="http://www.aws.cit.ie/mapume/" target="_blank">http://www.aws.cit.ie/mapume/</a> who we just found<br>
> about, we want to have something fully open source/free software).<br>
> As part of this project, we have decided to use the openstreetmap server<br>
> software technology.<br>
><br>
> Someone at University of Calford (UK) did the same as us and managed to draw<br>
> into a self-hosted openstreetmap server, the inside of some campus's<br>
> bookstore.<br>
> See here :<br>
> <a href="http://www.ja.net/development/network-access/location-awareness/investigations-la.html" target="_blank">http://www.ja.net/development/network-access/location-awareness/investigations-la.html</a><br>
> <= B2. Interactive Maps =<br>
> <a href="http://www.ja.net/documents/development/network-access/location-awareness/investigations/B2-interactive-maps-2.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.ja.net/documents/development/network-access/location-awareness/investigations/B2-interactive-maps-2.pdf</a><br>
><br>
> "@page 14 (or 270 in page footers)<br>
> "What worked well was the fact that whilst OpenStreetMap is intended for<br>
> outdoor maps it<br>
> can be made to work equally well for indoor maps. The interactive server can<br>
> be configured to<br>
> provide further zoom levels to display the resolution required for indoor<br>
> maps. The provision of<br>
> interactive elements can then be achieved by editing the PostGIS database to<br>
> include additional<br>
> objects, which can then be rendered by the mapnik renderer. Each additional<br>
> interactive object<br>
> will require its own unique style to be predefined to ensure that they<br>
> appear correctly on the<br>
> portable device."<br>
><br>
> I have put Nigel Linge who I believe is the author of this PDF and paragraph<br>
> as a recipient of this e-mail too.<br>
><br>
> Could someone tell precisely what config changes need to be done for indoor<br>
> precision & objects, starting from a regular openstreetmap server setup such<br>
> as that described on<br>
> <a href="http://weait.com/content/build-your-own-openstreetmap-server" target="_blank">http://weait.com/content/build-your-own-openstreetmap-server</a> ?<br>
><br>
> I basically would like to be able to draw every possible object contained in<br>
> a building/home/construction.<br>
> I have started creating a tags draft for indoor which is very limited at :<br>
> <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features#Proposed_Features_-_Indoor" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features#Proposed_Features_-_Indoor</a><br>
><br>
> By the way, who would like to collaborate with my team on our indoor self-<br>
> and objects geopositionning project relying on openstreetmap and java-based<br>
> mobile applications ?<br>
><br>
> Thanks in advance for your help,<br>
><br>
> Jonathan-David Schröder<br>
> Student in 5th in embedded systems at ECE Paris, France<br>
><br>
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