Hi,<br><br>Although I ranted before about the high barriers to entry in using the OSM data, I agree with Frederik on this one. With limited resources providing a good quality data query service isn't really a priority.<br>
<br>I've implemented support for XAPI in both Kosmos and Maperitive and it's a flaky service, but since it's free, I and all of the users of my software have to put up with it. On the other hand, if I were to provide a commercial service and start making money out of it, I would sure set up my own XAPI-like thing. Which I think many do, but for their own private/commercial purposes, so you don't get to hear about it.<br>
<br>Maybe writing a nice letter to Steve C. at MS asking for some server infrastructure would help? ;)<br><br>Regards,<br>Igor<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Frederik Ramm <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:frederik@remote.org">frederik@remote.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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On 12/15/10 19:54, Wyo wrote:<br>
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Just tell me, how many people, who don't get paid for the work, have set<br>
up their own XAPI server? A handful or a dozens, wordwide? Sorry forgive<br>
me my harsh words, yet the current procedure to set up an XAPI server is<br>
useless. For most interested people this is simply out of reach.<br>
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There are many things I am interested in but which are out of reach for me. I guess I'll either have to work on bringing them within reach, or I'll have to live with them being out of reach.<br>
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Sure it's a nice thing to be able to download a data set of all pizza joints in Spain with one simple command, but time and money has to be invested to make it possible - money to buy servers, time to install and maintain servers, time to write and maintain the software.<br>
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If I were an OSM admin, and I'm not, I'd divert resources away from non-essential services like that and into more power for people actually editing our data any time.<br>
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If there are so many people who would like to have a well-working XAPI server or similar, let them get together, find a sponsor (that may also be some university that allows the group to use a server there), write the required software and just do it. They don't need support from OSM, OSMF, OSM Admins or anyone to get it done.<br>
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If this hasn't happened until now, then that's a clear sign that there is not enough interest or not enough willingness to invest time and money in this.<br>
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Sitting there any saying "I think OSM should make my life easier" isn't going to get anything accomplished.<br>
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Bye<br><font color="#888888">
Frederik</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
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