<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/11/16 Roland Olbricht <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:roland.olbricht@gmx.de" target="_blank">roland.olbricht@gmx.de</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">Hi,</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">I think you will need several tools, because the posed questions aren't solved all by the same tool.</p><div class="im">
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> My use case is:</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> a school district has a list of 15 schools. They have all the updated</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> information. They keep this information in a website to show to people, an</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> they want to share it in ISM and keep it updated in OSM.</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> How can they be notified of a change?</p>
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</div><p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">This requires somebody who regularly looks after the reports about potential changes. A tool that can watch for changes is for example</p>
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</blockquote><div><br></div><div><a href="http://osm102.openstreetmap.fr/~zorglub/watch/">http://osm102.openstreetmap.fr/~zorglub/watch/</a> will work better, this URL may change to something more stable as it is currently a dev site. </div>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">Ypu can be bold and select all schools in a quite big bounding box around your district - these will still be less than one change per day on average.</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> How would they make a change on their website and then sync that data back</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> over to OSM?</p>
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</div><p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">The best way to make a change in OSM is really to use an editor and do the change. All automatic solutions have problems.</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">The Permanent ID tool for example, is deliberately designed only to link to objects in OSM, not to feed data there.</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">Best regards,</p>
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<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I think a better approach is to add a stable ref:* tag to the OSM objects.</div><div><br></div><div>That's the approach we have with most opendata available in France. We add tags like ref:UAI to schools where this ref comes from an official directory of schools. Same with ref:FR:RATP for subway stations and bus_stops in Paris area coming from RATP (Paris public transports).</div>
</div><div><br></div><div>It also opens linking possibility to external additional data instead of putting sometime too specialized (and changing) data in OSM itself.</div><div>It that aspect, a move toward semantic web would be interesting by adding reference to external URI(s) directly on OSM objects.</div>
<div><br></div>-- <br>Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France - <a href="http://openstreetmap.fr/u/christian-quest" target="_blank">http://openstreetmap.fr/u/cquest</a><br>