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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">As there are redirects I do not see an
issue here and I really like the progress which is going on!<br>
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... why not introduce a policy how to make changes to osm.org to
avoid 'social' or other issues in the future?<br>
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I would suggest instead of discussion everything on the dev
mailing list, do it like it is done in the Apache Foundation per
issue or per release:<br>
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* define: who is core committer to openstreetmap-website (or any
other project of OSM)<br>
* for every issue, release etc the committers vote:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html">http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html</a><br>
* To become a new commiter or get voting rights you have to be
included from existing committers<br>
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Once voted (or before?) one could 'inform' on the dev list that
some breaking changes could occur after deploying it. This way
everyone could join the discussion but only a subset of them
decide, which speeds up development but avoids a 'restricted
horizon'.<br>
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<pre wrap="">> What's more as this was done unannounced (no, an internal issue tracker is
> not an announcement), all these applications are failing now as a surprise
> for their users.
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I disagree here. Developer have to decide. osm.org should be pushed
even faster forwards. I don't think that github is "internal" as
you can easily watch the discussion and stay informed via email.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Peter.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:56 PM,
Maarten Deen <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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sorry, but IMHO this is yet another step backward.</blockquote>
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I don't know how it's hard to see that this is an offensive
liner to anyone who works on <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://openstreetmap.org">openstreetmap.org</a>.
Sorry. "yet another" alludes to a steady decline brought about
by people who keep "your" web site up. It's exactly the
passive aggressive stuff that gets us into long and
_exhausting_ tit for tat arguments on mailing lists all the
time.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Let's have more fun together.</div>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev</a>
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