<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:13px"><div style="" class=""><span style="" class="">Hi Vanya</span></div><div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br style="" class=""><span style="" class=""></span></div><div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="" class="">As for OSM in general, there are a lot of new contributors that participate to the Activations. A few elements are more related to the Activations such as the Tasking Manager, the Road Classification (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa) adapted to the context of the development countries.</span><span style="" class=""> But for the majority of the learning material,
the content is the same. <br></span></div><div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span style="" class=""></span></div><div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="" class="">One dimension to add could be to give in parallel examples for both the ID editor and JOSM.<br></span></div><div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br style="" class=""><span style="" class=""></span></div><div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="" class="">I also think that the contents should be broken
down in pieces related to specific tasks. This gives more flexibility to assemble the content for various tutorials using a Tables of contents. <br></span></div><div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="" class=""><br></span></div><div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="" class="">Some HOT contributors have started to develop specific contents for activations. If such documentation by tasks was available, it would be possible to provide Mapping instructions with hyperlinks to the Learning material. This way, beginners could access easily the instructions.</span></div><div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent;
font-style: normal;"><span style="" class=""></span><br style="" class=""></div><span style="" class=""></span><span style="" class="">For example :</span><ul><li><span style="" class="">Imagery - add a new url, zoom-in to see details<br></span></li><li><span style="" class="">Trace the highways and paths</span></li><ul><li><span style="" class="">Classify the higways based on their importance (</span><span style="" class=""><span style="" class="">Highway_Tag_Africa wiki page)</span></span></li></ul><li><span style="" class=""><span style="" class="">Trace the buildings</span></span></li><ul><li><span style="" class=""><span style="" class="">-JOSM Building plugin example</span></span></li><li><span style="" class=""><span style="" class="">Tags</span></span></li></ul><li><span style="" class=""><span style="" class="">POI</span></span></li></ul><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif;
background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">An other way to present the learning material, would be for JOSM a plugin that adds a Tutorial Panel. This way, if a contributor activates the Building plugin, the specific instructions or shortcut keys would be presented.<br></div><div style="" class=""> </div><div style="" class=""><span class="" style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;">Pierre <br style="" class=""></span><br style="" class=""></div> <div class="" style="font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div class="" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <div style="" class="" dir="ltr"> <hr style="" class="" size="1"> <font style="" class="" size="2" face="Arial"> <b style="" class=""><span class="" style="font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b> Vanya Jauhal <vanyajauhal@gmail.com><br style="" class="">
<b style="" class=""><span class="" style="font-weight: bold;">À :</span></b> Frederik Ramm <frederik@remote.org> <br style="" class=""><b style="" class=""><span class="" style="font-weight: bold;">Cc :</span></b> dev@openstreetmap.org <br style="" class=""> <b style="" class=""><span class="" style="font-weight: bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b> Vendredi 3 octobre 2014 13h18<br style="" class=""> <b style="" class=""><span class="" style="font-weight: bold;">Objet :</span></b> Re: [OSM-dev] Documentation Improvement<br style="" class=""> </font> </div> <div style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><div style="" class="" id="yiv2002909009"><div style="" class=""><div style="" class="" dir="ltr"><div style="" class=""><div style="" class=""><div style="" class=""><div style="" class=""><div style="" class=""><div style="" class=""><div style="" class=""><div style="" class="">Hello Everyone<br style="" class="" clear="none"><br
style="" class="" clear="none"></div>Fredrick, thank you for your reply. I'm sorry I wasn't clear in my mail earlier. The platforms that I've come across so far are- <a style="" class="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://learnosm.org/">learnosm.org</a>, the tutorial on <a style="" class="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://openstreetmap.org/">openstreetmap.org</a>, the tasking manager and the wiki page. All the above provide some doc for learners. What I had in mind was, a platform where we could put all of this on the same page. For instance, someone who stumbles upon the tasking manager might be looking for a less complicated tutorial, which is available on <a style="" class="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://openstreetmap.org/">openstreetmap.org</a>. So, maybe, in the wiki page, you can have one complete page dedicated to bringing the above documentations together. <br style=""
class="" clear="none"><br style="" class="" clear="none"></div>For instance- <br style="" class="" clear="none"></div><div style="" class="">A summary page might read something like: <br style="" class="" clear="none"></div>The tasking manager lets you perform data imports or HOT activations. The documentation on page 1 will tell you how. But if you would like to mark the bakery round the corner of your house, you can refer to the documentation on page 2.<br style="" class="" clear="none"><br style="" class="" clear="none"></div>So, as you pointed out- there are many platforms. What I was thinking was that maybe we could have one single page where the users are told about them all. <br style="" class="" clear="none"><br style="" class="" clear="none">I was thinking of using the wiki page for it, but if you think some other platform will be better, please let me know.<br style="" class="" clear="none"><br style="" class="" clear="none"></div>And the FAQ
and the comments part can be an add on to the wiki page itself.<br style="" class="" clear="none"><br style="" class="" clear="none"></div>Thank you for your input. Any feedback you have will be very helpful. <br style="" class="" clear="none"><br style="" class="" clear="none"></div>Thank you<br style="" class="" clear="none"><br style="" class="" clear="none"></div>Vanya<br style="" class="" clear="none"></div><div style="" class="" id="yiv2002909009yqt78609"><div style="" class=""><br style="" class="" clear="none"><div style="" class="">On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Frederik Ramm <span style="" class="" dir="ltr"><<a style="" class="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:frederik@remote.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:frederik@remote.org">frederik@remote.org</a>></span> wrote:<br style="" class="" clear="none"><blockquote class="" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hi,<br style="" class=""
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On 10/03/2014 12:31 PM, Vanya Jauhal wrote:<br style="" class="" clear="none">
> all beginners currently have to start with the OSM tasking manager<br style="" class="" clear="none">
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</span>Can you explain more? As I understand it, the tasking manager is a very<br style="" class="" clear="none">
specialist tool that will not usually be the first thing a beginner<br style="" class="" clear="none">
comes into contact with.<br style="" class="" clear="none">
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Beginners in OSM usually start with mapping things they are familiar<br style="" class="" clear="none">
with, like that bakery around the corner from where they live. They<br style="" class="" clear="none">
choose their own field of activity.<br style="" class="" clear="none">
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The tasking manager is a coordination platform that lets *other* people<br style="" class="" clear="none">
tell you what you should be doing. It is used for unusual purposes like<br style="" class="" clear="none">
data imports or HOT activations, but it is far from the standard mode of<br style="" class="" clear="none">
working for beginners.<br style="" class="" clear="none">
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> 1. The OSM beginner's page can have an FAQ section, where we can add<br style="" class="" clear="none">
> some common issues faced by users and their solutions.<br style="" class="" clear="none">
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</span>Are you talking of the Wiki or some other platform? We have plenty.<br style="" class="" clear="none">
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> 2.Adding user comments to the documentation.<br style="" class="" clear="none">
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</span>This kind of depends on which platform you have in mind. The Wiki, of<br style="" class="" clear="none">
course, already allows everyone to edit the documentation. If you're<br style="" class="" clear="none">
thinking of another platform, the mechanism for reader participation<br style="" class="" clear="none">
might be different.<br style="" class="" clear="none">
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Bye<br style="" class="" clear="none">
<span style="" class=""><font style="" class="" color="#888888">Frederik<br style="" class="" clear="none">
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