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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 16.02.2018 um 13:09 schrieb Martin
Koppenhoefer:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2018-02-16 0:04 GMT+01:00 Paul Norman
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:penorman@mac.com"
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2/14/2018 8:17 AM, Roland Olbricht wrote:<br>
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- How about simply asking the users for consent? We
could then<br>
-- make a clear-cut last complete history dump before
the date<br>
-- start with a planet dump without history before
that date afterwards that then accumulates history
only from users that have given consent <br>
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Consent is revocable. If we didn't have to deal with
people revoking consent and account deletion requests, it
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<div class="gmail_extra">We are asking for "a worldwide,
royalty-free, non-exclusive, perpetual, irrevocable licence to
do any act that is restricted by copyright, database right or
any related right over anything within the Contents, whether
in the original medium or any other." Do you have reason to
believe the "irrevocable" part is invalid?<br>
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No, because you can give an irrevocable licence in intellectual
property matters (that is a rough generalisation, I know, as certain
jurisdictions actually limit that).<br>
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"Contents" means "data and/or any other content (collectively,
“Contents”)" [which the user contributes] "to the geo-database
of the OpenStreetMap project"<br>
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href="https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Contributor_Terms"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Contributor_Terms</a><br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Account deletions are another issue,
but don't seem complicated: remove the human readable account
alias and e-mail forwarding and prevent it from editing. <br>
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The intellectual property rights (I re-quote: "that is restricted by
copyright, database right or any related right") have nothing to do
with the subject at hand, the data privacy rights of the individual
data subject. As a consequence the contributor terms have no
bearing, in any form, at all, even in an alternative universe, on
the matter.<br>
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If you look at our recommendation document you will note that we
believe that we currently do not have consent as defined by the GDPR
for the processing we do. As a consequence we will likely recommend
asking for explicit consent somewhere in the sign up process (from a
content pov this already exists in the privacy policy but it needs
to be re-jigged to work as part of the terms of use that will have
to be explicitly agreed to for account creation).<br>
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However having valid consent for current processing does not remove
the issue that Paul has pointed out (again) that consent can be
redrawn and that such a withdrawal applies retroactively. The main
cause why we one way or the other should change what data we
distribute to the general public.<br>
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Simon<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Cheers,<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Martin<br>
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