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<p>Quick addition, (I should really go check on the tagging email
list). <br>
It seems that <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/MarcusWolschon/osmeditor4android/blob/master/src/main/AndroidManifest.xml">Vespucci</a>
is a very good OSM editor, would a better integration with the app
be the better way to go? </p>
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<p>Best,<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 09/08/2022 à 16:56, Hugo Gresse a
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<p>Hi Michael & everyone,</p>
<p>Thank you all for the enthusiasm and answers!<br>
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<p>1) Regarding putting only trees, we don't have this information
for the moment. We'll let the user know to only put trees on
OSM. <br>
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<p>2) If we only go for specific prefilled tags (species,
taxon:family, source, natural) the user will need to pick the
correct location of the tree. For now, I'm only adding the
button on geolocalized owned observation. <br>
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<p>3) Regarding a plant layer in OSM, I believe the best source
would be to use gbif.org. They have the most complete
biodiversity database and many apps are already pushing to it
(including iNaturalist, Pl@ntNet, etc)</p>
<p>4) Quick question regardings tags, should the authorship of the
species be put on OSM (eg: species:Epilobium angustifolium <u><b>L.</b></u>)?
I did not find any info regarding the author of the species on
the OSM wiki. <br>
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<p>Last note, I'll wait for more feedback on this to complete the
pull request on my side. If the feature is completed as if, it
will be shipped in version 3.11 in September)<br>
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<p>Best,</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 09/08/2022 à 16:11, Michael
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Hi Hugo,<br>
<br>
I use and contribute to Pl@ntNet and it is truly great and a
marvellous endeavour. A thank you to you for working on it! I am
also a believer in "the more the merrier" as a doctrine for
OpenStreetMap. <br>
<br>
I am however dubious about pushing observations into the
OpenStreetMap database, if my understanding is correct as to the
intent.<br>
<br>
Two reasons,<br>
<br>
1) I contribute things like cultivated and wild plants in my
garden and nearby road verges along with geolocation for anyone
interested in looking at geographic spread. I don't think
(purely personal view) that is of 100% value to OpenStreetMap
itself - i.e rather like the Wikipedia notability criteria. At
most, I'd have a filter for only trees.<br>
<br>
2) As I recall from my usage, there are choices when it comes to
geolocation. One is to get a GPS fix, so in the sort of accuracy
used by OpenStreetMap. The other is to use a push pin - I
wonder to what extent folks deliberately make it less than
precise for privacy reason. Just speculating, but that would not
be useful for OpenStreetMap. I've seen some of the ?Corrine tree
cover imports and they are generally terrible. Could
observations be restricted to GPS only?+<br>
<br>
I am going to forward my response and your mail to Jerry Clough
who is both a very active OSMer and a biologist as I am not sure
if he is on this list. He might have some more authoritative
thoughts ... but that is up to him!<br>
<br>
What might be nice (and perhaps useful!) would a plant
observation layer in OSM format that can be combined those
interested. I think we at OpenStreetMap may be missing an
opportunity to incorporate scientific and citizen science data
into our ecosphere. The static natural world - plants, geology
and geomorphology - has some sort of role I'm sure.<br>
<br>
Mike<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2022-08-09 15:15, Hugo Gresse
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<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I'm working on <a href="http://plantnet.org/"
moz-do-not-send="true">Pl@ntNet</a> mobile app (32 M
users) which allow users to identify plants and
contribute/share them (with the geolocation) on Pl@ntNet
database. The data is then available for everyone and also
pushed to GBIF.org (a free global biodiversity database). <br>
</p>
<p>Users requested a feature to push their plant observations
to OSM into Wikidata format. <br>
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<p>The current plan to do this is to have a copy button in the
app which will format the data in text and put it in the
user clipboard on his mobile device: <code> </code></p>
<pre class="notranslate"><code>genus=Cercis
name=arbre de la piscine
natural=tree
species=Cercis siliquastrum
species:fr=Arbre de Judée
src=survey;Observation : Cercis siliquastrum L. (Pascal Vuylsteker 17 juin 2021) Flore mondiale - Pl@ntNet identify
</code></pre>
<p>Would that be ok or ideal?<br>
</p>
<p>If not, what could be done to facilitate adding data to OSM
through Pl@ntNet? <br>
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Best,
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AMAP<br>
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