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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I think the biggest problem in general
is attracting new people - be they black white male female or
green. <br>
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OSM is a niche thing - It doesn't matter what is done with new
editors and new ideas - your typical user isn't going to muck
around in the wiki (which is a mess) OR get on a talk list and
hope to get one of the people that don't consider OSM their own
personal playground. <br>
<br>
If you want to learn OSM on the WIKI one of the first things
covered it loading GPX data - once again new users don't care
about that (maybe when they get more advanced - yes). The LearnOSM
site is good - BUT - which is definitive? The wiki OR the LearnOSM
site (or maybe they both have their own merits. <br>
<br>
I always try to look at it from a "win" perspective - how does OSM
win? For me it's a win if I can convince an elderly person to map
their neighborhood or a kid to map their elementary school or
something they enjoy. I have tried these very things - but knowing
I would be the portal into OSM - there isn't a good spot for them
to get that type of support and understanding and get questions
answered. I spent a wonderful amount of time in the US Virgin
Islands working this previous summer - and that was always
something I wondered about "How can I convince a resident to show
what they "love" on OSM - be it their neighborhood or school or
church?" The second question became if I do this - "who will they
end up talking to if they get active". The second question always
worried me. <br>
<br>
We've had conversations on this end about the "community map"
aspect to OSM - is it really just that? We've been beating a dead
horse on other talk lists on "OSM Community" - and I think that is
something that needs definition - who do you want in OSM? Is it
everyone? Is it only a select group? What is the current
community? How is that defined? <br>
<br>
<br>
Randy<br>
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On 02/13/2014 08:29 AM, Alex Barth wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">My top two priorities for increasing diversity,
especially at events, are:
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<div>- Appeal to newcomers. We're never going to create
diversity with the people who are already part of OSM, so I
try to make sure I'm speaking to the people who I haven't met
yet rather than the crowd who's in the know. </div>
<div>- I make a personal effort to reach out to women to get
involved. Diversity is not just more women, I know, but this
is actionable.</div>
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On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Fozy 81 <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div dir="ltr">Hi All,<br>
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Yes, I'd be interested to attend a meeting on Diversity.
<br>
<br>
And on mapping parties/meetups. The wiki could be
updated to include a few tips on how to be inclusive.<br>
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So in my experience - first I started in a pub on a week
night. And to be honest that is an easy way to start (no
room hire, convenient, beer). And nothing wrong with
that . But have made the effort to mix it up with
different venues and times to possibly attract different
groups (which has worked to some extent). <br>
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So I guess, the main thing is to run an event - it's a
fun thing to do and will gather the existing community
and may attract new people. But IMHO if you are planning
on running a series of events - try to mix the venues,
times and groups you are interacting with. And try to
find different contacts/ways to broadcast your event
(social media, email, notices etc).<br>
<br>
+ 1 all the advice on atmosphere/welcoming/questions etc
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<br>
Tim<br>
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