<div dir="ltr">I won't be able to make April 2nd. Is it possible to speak on Monday, March 31st?<div><br></div><div>Thanks, </div><div>Alyssa. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 5:38 AM, Kate Chapman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kate@maploser.com" target="_blank">kate@maploser.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Steven,<br>
<br>
Yes April 2nd.<br>
<br>
I agree I think education is very important way to get people<br>
interested. HOT has been in the midst of a "University Roadshow"<br>
within Indonesia. We will have introduced 11 universities to<br>
OpenStreetMap as well as given students a chance to sign-up for<br>
workshops.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
-Kate<br>
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On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Steven Johnson <<a href="mailto:sejohnson8@gmail.com">sejohnson8@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Kate & lists,<br>
><br>
> If you mean, Wed, 2 April then yes, count me in.<br>
><br>
> As fodder for the discussion, here's an article about a college trying to<br>
> make CS studies more inclusive: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ltl8yhr" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/ltl8yhr</a> There are some<br>
> transferable lessons for the OSM community.<br>
><br>
> I'm cross-posting this reply to teachosm list because I've come to the<br>
> conclusion that the route to diversity is goes directly through education<br>
> and outreach. If we train middle- and high-schoolers to get involved mapping<br>
> at a younger age, we stand a better chance at broadening the base of<br>
> contributors. But we need an effort that scales and can be pitched toward a<br>
> younger audience.<br>
><br>
> Perhaps we can talk about this on the Wed call and tee up a follow-up<br>
> birds-of-a-feather session the upcoming State o' the Map conference.<br>
><br>
> SEJ<br>
><br>
> -- SEJ<br>
> -- twitter: @geomantic<br>
> -- skype: sejohnson8<br>
><br>
> There are two types of people in the world. Those that can extrapolate from<br>
> incomplete data.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:57 AM, Kate Chapman <<a href="mailto:kate@maploser.com">kate@maploser.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi All,<br>
>><br>
>> How about we schedule a meeting next week to discuss some possible<br>
>> steps? If I suggest Wednesday at 14:00 UTC does that work for most<br>
>> people that are interested?<br>
>><br>
>> I'll volunteer HOT's mumble server(1) for the discuss unless someone<br>
>> wants to volunteer a conference call line (which works<br>
>> internationally).<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>><br>
>> -Kate<br>
>><br>
>> (1) <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mumble" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mumble</a><br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Kate Chapman <<a href="mailto:kate@maploser.com">kate@maploser.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > Hi All,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I just wanted to share this article on editathons aimed at closing the<br>
>> > gender gap in Wikipedia(1).<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Another item we could think about for mapping parties is to have a<br>
>> > diversity statement. Groups could simply link to it on their meet-up<br>
>> > page or whatever software they are using to organize.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Thanks,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > -Kate<br>
>> > (1)<br>
>> > <a href="http://blogs.kcrw.com/whichwayla/2014/02/edit-a-thons-aim-to-erase-wikipedias-gender-gap" target="_blank">http://blogs.kcrw.com/whichwayla/2014/02/edit-a-thons-aim-to-erase-wikipedias-gender-gap</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Randal Hale<br>
>> > <<a href="mailto:rjhale@northrivergeographic.com">rjhale@northrivergeographic.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >> I think the biggest problem in general is attracting new people - be<br>
>> >> they<br>
>> >> black white male female or green.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> OSM is a niche thing - It doesn't matter what is done with new editors<br>
>> >> and<br>
>> >> new ideas - your typical user isn't going to muck around in the wiki<br>
>> >> (which<br>
>> >> is a mess) OR get on a talk list and hope to get one of the people that<br>
>> >> don't consider OSM their own personal playground.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> If you want to learn OSM on the WIKI one of the first things covered it<br>
>> >> loading GPX data - once again new users don't care about that (maybe<br>
>> >> when<br>
>> >> they get more advanced - yes). The LearnOSM site is good - BUT - which<br>
>> >> is<br>
>> >> definitive? The wiki OR the LearnOSM site (or maybe they both have<br>
>> >> their own<br>
>> >> merits.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I always try to look at it from a "win" perspective - how does OSM win?<br>
>> >> For<br>
>> >> me it's a win if I can convince an elderly person to map their<br>
>> >> neighborhood<br>
>> >> or a kid to map their elementary school or something they enjoy. I have<br>
>> >> tried these very things - but knowing I would be the portal into OSM -<br>
>> >> there<br>
>> >> isn't a good spot for them to get that type of support and<br>
>> >> understanding and<br>
>> >> get questions answered. I spent a wonderful amount of time in the US<br>
>> >> Virgin<br>
>> >> Islands working this previous summer - and that was always something I<br>
>> >> wondered about "How can I convince a resident to show what they "love"<br>
>> >> on<br>
>> >> OSM - be it their neighborhood or school or church?" The second<br>
>> >> question<br>
>> >> became if I do this - "who will they end up talking to if they get<br>
>> >> active".<br>
>> >> The second question always worried me.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> We've had conversations on this end about the "community map" aspect to<br>
>> >> OSM<br>
>> >> - is it really just that? We've been beating a dead horse on other talk<br>
>> >> lists on "OSM Community" - and I think that is something that needs<br>
>> >> definition - who do you want in OSM? Is it everyone? Is it only a<br>
>> >> select<br>
>> >> group? What is the current community? How is that defined?<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Randy<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> -----------------<br>
>> >> Randal Hale, GISP<br>
>> >> North River Geographic Systems, Inc<br>
>> >> <a href="http://www.northrivergeographic.com" target="_blank">http://www.northrivergeographic.com</a><br>
>> >> <a href="tel:423.653.3611" value="+14236533611">423.653.3611</a> <a href="mailto:rjhale@northrivergeographic.com">rjhale@northrivergeographic.com</a><br>
>> >> <a href="mailto:rjhale@northrivergeographic.com">rjhale@northrivergeographic.com</a><br>
>> >> twitter:rjhale<br>
>> >> <a href="http://about.me/rjhale" target="_blank">http://about.me/rjhale</a><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On 02/13/2014 08:29 AM, Alex Barth wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> My top two priorities for increasing diversity, especially at events,<br>
>> >> are:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> - Appeal to newcomers. We're never going to create diversity with the<br>
>> >> people<br>
>> >> who are already part of OSM, so I try to make sure I'm speaking to the<br>
>> >> people who I haven't met yet rather than the crowd who's in the know.<br>
>> >> - I make a personal effort to reach out to women to get involved.<br>
>> >> Diversity<br>
>> >> is not just more women, I know, but this is actionable.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Fozy 81 <<a href="mailto:fozy81@hotmail.com">fozy81@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Hi All,<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Yes, I'd be interested to attend a meeting on Diversity.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> And on mapping parties/meetups. The wiki could be updated to include a<br>
>> >>> few<br>
>> >>> tips on how to be inclusive.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> So in my experience - first I started in a pub on a week night. And to<br>
>> >>> be<br>
>> >>> honest that is an easy way to start (no room hire, convenient, beer).<br>
>> >>> And<br>
>> >>> nothing wrong with that . But have made the effort to mix it up with<br>
>> >>> different venues and times to possibly attract different groups (which<br>
>> >>> has<br>
>> >>> worked to some extent).<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> So I guess, the main thing is to run an event - it's a fun thing to do<br>
>> >>> and<br>
>> >>> will gather the existing community and may attract new people. But<br>
>> >>> IMHO if<br>
>> >>> you are planning on running a series of events - try to mix the<br>
>> >>> venues,<br>
>> >>> times and groups you are interacting with. And try to find different<br>
>> >>> contacts/ways to broadcast your event (social media, email, notices<br>
>> >>> etc).<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> + 1 all the advice on atmosphere/welcoming/questions etc<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Tim<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> _______________________________________________<br>
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>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
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