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<span style="font-size: 12pt;">I agree with this CoC, think it's pretty sufficient. Thanks. </span></div>
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Also agree with Blake, I would consider adding to the draft "Offensive comments related to..." something like "national origin, cultural affiliation",
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as well as </span>"ethnicity", "language", "level of instruction". </div>
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Things in which people find consists the very being of any people, perhaps could be added; any offensive comments related to the being of someone, its value. </div>
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And the sort of positive acts that are welcome. </div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I think perhaps the draft could be considered as a CoC already in use here,
</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">if it would be needed to invoke it.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12pt;"></span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Any improvements or adjusts could be done on the going. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Also, diversity talks lay not only in preventive instances, that instance being assured is good, lay in many subjects related to <span style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", NotoColorEmoji, "Segoe UI Symbol", "Android Emoji", EmojiSymbols; font-size: 16px;">diversity
of people and initiatives </span>too. </span></div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>De:</b> Rory McCann <rory@technomancy.org><br>
<b>Enviado:</b> quinta-feira, 1 de março de 2018 15:53<br>
<b>Para:</b> Blake Girardot; Paul Norman<br>
<b>Cc:</b> OSM Diversity<br>
<b>Assunto:</b> Re: [Diversity-talk] Code of Conduct & Moderation for this list</font>
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<div class="PlainText">Hi all,<br>
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I have put the GF one as a draft on the OSM wiki:<br>
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<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity/MailingList/CodeOfConduct">
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity/MailingList/CodeOfConduct</a><br>
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Feel free to edit it as appropriate. At some point I'll go through and<br>
add the suggestions.<br>
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On 28/02/18 15:27, Blake Girardot wrote:<br>
> From my perspective, and I am not sure why it is left out of <br>
> geekfeminism's policy is that item one under "Harassment includes" <br>
> should list "national origin, cultural affiliation" to address the<br>
> issue of people making offensive comments about people from<br>
> particular countries or cultures.<br>
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Agreed. "national origin" has been included in anti-racism laws in the<br>
UK since the 1960s.<br>
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> We might even include something like "OpenStreetMap participation<br>
> style" in that list so we do not have to tolerate disparaging remarks<br>
> about remote mappers, craft mappers, newbie mappers or folks that<br>
> participate through non-mapping contributions.<br>
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Broadly in favour. Ilya Zverik said:<br>
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> OpenStreetMap needs everything. More editors, more tutorials, more ><br>
> rendering styles, more mappers, more software. Anyone has something<br>
> to contribute, although most don’t know what to do.<br>
<a href="http://blog.opencagedata.com/post/openstreetmap-interview-ilya-zverev-level0">http://blog.opencagedata.com/post/openstreetmap-interview-ilya-zverev-level0</a><br>
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Is there a chance a broad wording could be interpreted as "Don't<br>
criticize reckless, bad faith, mapping *ever*"? 🤔 I wouldn't want that.<br>
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> And I would change or add to the first line "Offensive or<br>
> disparaging comments..." because "disparaging" or "derogatory" are<br>
> open to much less debate than the very subjective "offensive". How<br>
> many endless discussions will there be (or have their been) about<br>
> what is offensive as opposed to the somewhat easier to identify,<br>
> disparaging or derogatory comment.<br>
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Agreed. "offensive" is vague and can be used against marginalized people<br>
(e.g. "LGBTQ rights are offensive my sincerely held religious beliefs").<br>
Usually I use "harmful", but those work too.<br>
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On 01/03/18 19:13, Paul Norman wrote:<br>
> A couple of issues I would consider if I were doing the selection<br>
> again are readability and education or socioeconomic status.<br>
Classism is a harmful thing, so I agree we should put that in.<br>
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Better readability makes it easier for non-native English speakers.<br>
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Rory<br>
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