<div dir="ltr"><div>HI Jo, thanks for this comment. I added it into the document and people are now discussing. <br><br></div><div>Thank you again for all the support over the years</div><div><br></div><div>Heather <br></div><div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Heather Leson<br><a href="mailto:heatherleson@gmail.com" target="_blank">heatherleson@gmail.com</a><br>Twitter/skype: HeatherLeson <br>Blog: <a href="http://textontechs.com" target="_blank">textontechs.com</a><br></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 9:14 PM Jo Walsh <<a href="mailto:metazool@fastmail.net">metazool@fastmail.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
Not sure how to make suggestions directly in the Google Doc or if i want to. <br>
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I appreciate and feel broadly its sentiments but do not feel prepared to sign anything which has as a preamble an attack on one person, whatever the trigger. It's not equitable, risks entrenching the division. Principles sound but keep it about how things should be in a better world, not about how broken they are in this one.<br>
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Jo Walsh<br>
<a href="mailto:metazool@fastmail.net" target="_blank">metazool@fastmail.net</a><br>
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On Wed, Dec 9, 2020, at 2:29 AM, arnalie faye vicario wrote:<br>
> Hello/*Kumusta*,<br>
> <br>
> *Salamat*/Thanks everyone for continuing the conversations and taking <br>
> this seriously.<br>
> <br>
> It is good to speak up and comment about it in our individual <br>
> capacities, but a collective can build a fire 🔥 (charcoal comparison). <br>
> <br>
> This is what we did in OSM PH's Call to Correct Narratives About <br>
> Geospatial Work in the Philippines (re: Amazon-HOT video). <br>
> <<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/a/aa/A_Call_to_Correct_Narratives_about_Geospatial_Work.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/a/aa/A_Call_to_Correct_Narratives_about_Geospatial_Work.pdf</a>><br>
> <br>
> Also, I would like to quote and highlight what David Garcia <br>
> (@mapmakerdavid) has shared in Twitter:<br>
> > It is not just the maps that matters. Who *makes* the maps matters. Who *tells* the stories of the mapping matters, too. Who *LEADS* the mapping and storytelling also matters. Who *gets powerful* due to the mapping and storytelling matters most.<br>
> <br>
> Thank you Geochicas, Celine @mapeadora, Heather, Rebecca, Miriam <br>
> @mapanauta, Nelson Minar, LCCWG Group, OSMF past/present Board members <br>
> (Kate, Rory and Mikel), HOT Community WG and everyone who expressed <br>
> support and has spoken up (apologies if I missed your name). It is <br>
> really encouraging and inspiring. Please add your thoughts in the <br>
> document: <br>
> <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/130JCTX9ve4H4ORXznmIVTpXiN3TX8nRGA8ayuTZ9ECI/edit" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/130JCTX9ve4H4ORXznmIVTpXiN3TX8nRGA8ayuTZ9ECI/edit</a><br>
> <br>
> In case you missed it (like me), here is what Celine sent in the OSM <br>
> talk mailing list: <br>
> <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2020-December/085727.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2020-December/085727.html</a>.<br>
> <br>
> Let us keep the fire burning!<br>
> <br>
> =Arnalie<br>
> <br>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 5:54 AM Clifford Snow <<a href="mailto:clifford@snowandsnow.us" target="_blank">clifford@snowandsnow.us</a>> wrote:<br>
> > I should mention that what we, Maggie Crawely, Rob Nickerson and myself, want to accomplish is to create a committee to moderate the existing etiquette guidelines and later update the guidelines to reflect best practices of Code of Conducts.We planned to form a sub committee under the LCCWG since CoC is critical to Local Chapters. We did a survey of Local Chapters and those considering forming one. The results showed that 5 LC already had a CoC, 6 did not and 6 were consider or in a discussion to have a CoC.<br>
> > <br>
> > Clifford<br>
> > <br>
> > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 1:36 PM Heather Leson <<a href="mailto:heatherleson@gmail.com" target="_blank">heatherleson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >> Always<br>
> >> Heather Leson<br>
> >> <a href="mailto:heatherleson@gmail.com" target="_blank">heatherleson@gmail.com</a><br>
> >> Twitter/skype: HeatherLeson <br>
> >> Blog: <a href="http://textontechs.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">textontechs.com</a><br>
> >> <br>
> >> <br>
> >> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 10:31 PM Clifford Snow <<a href="mailto:clifford@snowandsnow.us" target="_blank">clifford@snowandsnow.us</a>> wrote:<br>
> >>> Heather - A small group of the LCCWG met via BigBlueButton yesterday to start a similar initiative. I was going to send an invite to the rest of the LCCWG as well as to this mailing list. Since you have the ball rolling, can you include <a href="mailto:local@osmfoundation.org" target="_blank">local@osmfoundation.org</a> in the mailing.<br>
> >>> <br>
> >>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 1:22 PM Heather Leson <<a href="mailto:heatherleson@gmail.com" target="_blank">heatherleson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >>>> Great. working in the draft now. <br>
> >>>> <br>
> >>>> Thank you right back. Saturday is just a way to discuss this restart. We can keep building. <br>
> >>>> <br>
> >>>> Heather <br>
> >>>> <br>
> >>>> Heather Leson<br>
> >>>> <a href="mailto:heatherleson@gmail.com" target="_blank">heatherleson@gmail.com</a><br>
> >>>> Twitter/skype: HeatherLeson <br>
> >>>> Blog: <a href="http://textontechs.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">textontechs.com</a><br>
> >>>> <br>
> >>>> <br>
> >>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 10:10 PM Gertrude Namitala <<a href="mailto:trudyhope7@gmail.com" target="_blank">trudyhope7@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >>>>> Thanks Heather for starting this. I will try to be available.<br>
> >>>>> <br>
> >>>>> Kind regards,<br>
> >>>>> Trudy <br>
> >>>>> <br>
> >>>>> On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, 23:05 Mikel Maron, <<a href="mailto:mikel.maron@gmail.com" target="_blank">mikel.maron@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >>>>>> This is great<br>
> >>>>>> <br>
> >>>>>> * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron<br>
> >>>>>> <br>
> >>>>>> <br>
> >>>>>> <br>
> >>>>>> <br>
> >>>>>> <br>
> >>>>>> <br>
> >>>>>> On Tuesday, December 8, 2020, 03:55:49 PM EST, Heather Leson <<a href="mailto:heatherleson@gmail.com" target="_blank">heatherleson@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <br>
> >>>>>> <br>
> >>>>>> <br>
> >>>>>> <br>
> >>>>>> <br>
> >>>>>> <br>
> >>>>>> Great! Editing now<br>
> >>>>>> Hope we can have an initial chat<br>
> >>>>>> <br>
> >>>>>> heather<br>
> >>>>>> <br>
> >>>>>> Heather Leson<br>
> >>>>>> <a href="mailto:heatherleson@gmail.com" target="_blank">heatherleson@gmail.com</a><br>
> >>>>>> Twitter/skype: HeatherLeson <br>
> >>>>>> Blog: <a href="http://textontechs.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">textontechs.com</a><br>
> >>>>>> <br>
> >>>>>> <br>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 9:33 PM Rebecca Firth <<a href="mailto:rebecca.firth@hotosm.org" target="_blank">rebecca.firth@hotosm.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> >>>>>> > Hi Heather,<br>
> >>>>>> > <br>
> >>>>>> > Thanks for setting that up - I'll need to jig some things around but really hope to be able to join that meeting. Some people had already started working on a statement to share. I am sharing here for allies to add comments they would like to raise, and to identify people who are keen to move this work forward: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/130JCTX9ve4H4ORXznmIVTpXiN3TX8nRGA8ayuTZ9ECI/edit" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/130JCTX9ve4H4ORXznmIVTpXiN3TX8nRGA8ayuTZ9ECI/edit</a> <br>
> >>>>>> > <br>
> >>>>>> > Thanks,<br>
> >>>>>> > <br>
> >>>>>> > Rebecca<br>
> >>>>>> > <br>
> >>>>>> > <br>
> >>>>>> > <br>
> >>>>>> > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 8:21 PM Heather Leson <<a href="mailto:heatherleson@gmail.com" target="_blank">heatherleson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >>>>>> >> Hey <br>
> >>>>>> >> <br>
> >>>>>> >> A few of us are going to meet this saturday about code of conduct in osm. There is a codw of conduct but we think there needs to be more. We can also touch on the diversity work that mikel shared previously.<br>
> >>>>>> >> <br>
> >>>>>> >> 1500 utc before the osmf board meeting at 1600 utc.<br>
> >>>>>> >> <br>
> >>>>>> >> Hope you can join. This will be a small group discussion. We can always widen the circle later.<br>
> >>>>>> >> <br>
> >>>>>> >> Link to be shared later. Note this will be a safe and positive space discussion. We will adhere strongly to the diversity list code. <br>
> >>>>>> >> <br>
> >>>>>> >> Thanks so much<br>
> >>>>>> >> <br>
> >>>>>> >> <br>
> >>>>>> >> Heather <br>
> >>>>>> >> _______________________________________________<br>
> >>>>>> >> Diversity-talk mailing list<br>
> >>>>>> >> Code of Conduct: <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity/MailingList/CodeOfConduct" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity/MailingList/CodeOfConduct</a><br>
> >>>>>> >> Contact the mods (private): <a href="mailto:diversity-talk-owner@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">diversity-talk-owner@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
> >>>>>> >> <br>
> >>>>>> > <br>
> >>>>>> > <br>
> >>>>>> > -- <br>
> >>>>>> > <br>
> >>>>>> > <br>
> >>>>>> > <br>
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
> >>>>>> Diversity-talk mailing list<br>
> >>>>>> Code of Conduct: <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity/MailingList/CodeOfConduct" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity/MailingList/CodeOfConduct</a><br>
> >>>>>> Contact the mods (private): <a href="mailto:diversity-talk-owner@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">diversity-talk-owner@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
> >>>> _______________________________________________<br>
> >>>> Diversity-talk mailing list<br>
> >>>> Code of Conduct: <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity/MailingList/CodeOfConduct" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity/MailingList/CodeOfConduct</a><br>
> >>>> Contact the mods (private): <a href="mailto:diversity-talk-owner@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">diversity-talk-owner@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
> >>> <br>
> >>> <br>
> >>> -- <br>
> >>> @osm_washington<br>
> >>> <a href="http://www.snowandsnow.us" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.snowandsnow.us</a><br>
> >>> OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > -- <br>
> > @osm_washington<br>
> > <a href="http://www.snowandsnow.us" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.snowandsnow.us</a><br>
> > OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch<br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
> > Diversity-talk mailing list<br>
> > Code of Conduct: <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity/MailingList/CodeOfConduct" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity/MailingList/CodeOfConduct</a><br>
> > Contact the mods (private): <a href="mailto:diversity-talk-owner@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">diversity-talk-owner@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Diversity-talk mailing list<br>
> Code of Conduct: <br>
> <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity/MailingList/CodeOfConduct" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity/MailingList/CodeOfConduct</a><br>
> Contact the mods (private): <a href="mailto:diversity-talk-owner@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">diversity-talk-owner@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
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