<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Robert,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>The idea right now is to experiment with these issues on a separate infrastructure.</span></div><div></div><div> </div><div>-Mikel</div><div><br></div><div>* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new
roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Robert Warren <warren@muninn-project.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> historic@openstreetmap.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, January 21, 2013 12:36 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Historic] Temporal Tagging<br> </font> </div> <br>
<br>No doubt that detail of tracking would appeal to some of the more hardcore historians. What you suggest also applies to buildings / amenities that have been repurposed to museums for examples. <br><br>For movement, the only thing that I can think of is to encode time into sets of node/ways to account for movement and have the renderer deal with the problem. I'm not sure how well this will scale through.<br><br><br>Incidentally, is HOSM going to use the same database as OSM like OpenSeaMap does or is it going to be a separate store altogether?<br><br>rhw<br><br>On 2013-01-21, at 6:51 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:<br><br>> 2013/1/21 Robert Warren <<a ymailto="mailto:warren@muninn-project.org" href="mailto:warren@muninn-project.org">warren@muninn-project.org</a>>:<br>>> Does anyone have any ideas about how to handle events that involve movement, such as forest fires or battlefields front lines?<br>> <br>> <br>> There is also
another kind of movement, think for instance of egyptian<br>> obelisks: they used to stand for hundreds and thousands of years in<br>> egypt, but were then transportated to other places (many of them are<br>> in Rome). It would be interesting to have a relation between the<br>> original place and the place they are now. There is a lot of other<br>> stuff with similar characteristics/history but less prominence (e.g.<br>> columns that have been taken after a war, moved and reintegrated into<br>> newer structures, ...).<br>> <br>> Spoils in general, if it is still known where they come from, are<br>> examples for this phenomenon.<br>> <br>> In other cases it might be disputable whether it makes sense to map<br>> them in OSM, e.g. a metal sculpture that was molten and a different<br>> sculpture in a different place was made of. An example that comes to<br>> my mind is the victory column in Berlin:<br>> * it
was made after the German-French War of 1870/71 and errected in<br>> front of the Reichstag:<br>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Reichstag_und_Siegess%C3%A4ule_um_1900.jpg<br>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=52.518251&mlon=13.372582&zoom=18&layers=M<br>> * in the nazi times it was raised by one segment and moved from there<br>> to their new East-West-axxis where it stands until now (the other<br>> allies refused the french request to tear it down after 2nd WW):<br>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Siegess%C3%A4ule_nah_2.jpg<br>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=52.514533&mlon=13.350148&zoom=18&layers=M<br>> On a microlevel there are cannons from the wars attached to the column<br>> and there are bronze plates telling the story of the wars from the<br>> contemporary German point of view which were made from conquered<br>> cannons of these wars.<br>> <br>>
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