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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Mostly an avid lurker here, but I figured I'd throw in two cents to say that OHM has a nice ring to it and I think for folks that folks who know OSM would make the connection in their minds (It has the same cadence to it & same first and last letter). <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Beyond that, OHM would make a lot more sense to folks who aren’t particularly familiar with OSM. Given that folks want to go way back in history, it's also worth noting that "street" doesn't have a universal historical connotation. (Thinking here of historians that one would love to have get involved working on early Norse societies or archeologists working with pre-colonial history of the Americas both of whom might be excited about working with historical maps, but might see the word "street" and think it's not really for them). I don't think that's a particularly significant issue, but just a short note to mention that the project might seem more inviting to some if it didn't have "Street" in the title. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Best, Trevor<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Jeff Meyer [mailto:jeff@gwhat.org] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 28, 2013 4:11 AM<br><b>To:</b> Shekhar Krishnan<br><b>Cc:</b> historic@openstreetmap.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Historic] "HOSM" or "OHM"?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>A couple other thoughts... I do think there's some value in having the name "OSM" as part of the name. It credits the source of our platform and aligns us with a large base of existing users and tools. There's a grant proposal in to use HOSM/OHM as a foundation for some work here in the US (more on this later, hopefully with some positive news...). The proposal has received some positive feedback, in part, I believe, due to the OSM connection. That said, OHM is certainly more broad-reaching sounding and may free us to communicate other concepts.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:58 AM, Jeff Meyer <<a href="mailto:jeff@gwhat.org" target="_blank">jeff@gwhat.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Shekhar - <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>These are good suggestions - we have already moved to the term "Historical."<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>See: <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Historical_OSM" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Historical_OSM</a>. We just haven't bothered to change the list name.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We also had a discussion on Historical OSM vs OSM Historical, but didn't really consider Open Historical Map at the time - see the latest email on subject here: <a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/historic/2012-October/000060.html" target="_blank">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/historic/2012-October/000060.html</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>That said, I don't think there's much of an investment & we could change easily.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Thanks, Jeff<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Shekhar Krishnan <<a href="mailto:shekhar@topomancy.com" target="_blank">shekhar@topomancy.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p>Hi. <o:p></o:p></p><p>I wanted to discuss the use of the acronym "HOSM". <o:p></o:p></p><p>It seems to me it sounds way too similar to the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team, which is very well-established and recognised in the community. We should not confuse identities. <o:p></o:p></p><p>I would prefer if we used "OHM" as in Open Historical Map, similar to projects like OpenCycleMap, etc. We have also registered this as the domain <a href="http://openhistoricalmap.net/.org" target="_blank">openhistoricalmap.net/.org</a>. <o:p></o:p></p><p>Also as a historian we rarely use the adjective "historic" and prefer the term "historical". Since the list and tag-line is already this I don't mind, but "HOSM" is not distinct enough. <o:p></o:p></p><p>Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></p><p>Best,<o:p></o:p></p><p>S.K.<br>--<o:p></o:p></p><p>Shekhar Krishnan<br>Topomancy LLC<o:p></o:p></p><p><a href="http://shekhar.cc" target="_blank">http://shekhar.cc</a><br><a href="http://topomancy.com" target="_blank">http://topomancy.com</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>_______________________________________________<br>Historic mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Historic@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">Historic@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic" target="_blank">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'><br><br clear=all><span class=hoenzb><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=hoenzb><span style='color:#888888'>-- </span></span><span style='color:#888888'><br></span><span class=hoenzb><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:#888888'>Jeff Meyer</span></span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:#888888'><br><span class=hoenzb>Global World History Atlas</span><br><span class=hoenzb><a href="http://www.gwhat.org" target="_blank">www.gwhat.org</a></span><br><span class=hoenzb><a href="mailto:jeff@gwhat.org" target="_blank">jeff@gwhat.org</a></span><br><span class=hoenzb><a href="tel:206-676-2347" target="_blank">206-676-2347</a></span></span><span class=hoenzb><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:#888888'><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jeffmeyer" target="_blank"><span style='border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=100 height=100 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:~WRD000.jpg" alt="Image removed by sender."></span></a> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#888888'>osm: <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Historical_OSM" target="_blank">Historical OSM</a> / <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jeffmeyer" target="_blank">my OSM user page</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'><img border=0 width=100 height=100 id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:~WRD000.jpg" alt="Image removed by sender."></span><span style='color:#888888'> </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:#888888'>t: <a href="https://twitter.com/GWHAThistory" target="_blank">@GWHAThistory</a></span><span style='color:#888888'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'><img border=0 width=100 height=100 id="_x0000_i1027" src="cid:~WRD000.jpg" alt="Image removed by sender."></span><span style='color:#888888'> </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:#888888'>f: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/GWHAThistory" target="_blank">GWHAThistory</a></span><span style='color:#888888'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#888888'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>Jeff Meyer<br>Global World History Atlas<br><a href="http://www.gwhat.org" target="_blank">www.gwhat.org</a><br><a href="mailto:jeff@gwhat.org" target="_blank">jeff@gwhat.org</a><br>206-676-2347</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt'><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jeffmeyer" target="_blank"><span style='border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=100 height=100 id="_x0000_i1028" src="cid:~WRD000.jpg" alt="Image 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