Apologies to Shekhar for messing up his name - mea culpa! Jeff<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Jeff Meyer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jeff@gwhat.org" target="_blank">jeff@gwhat.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Mikel - your typing is atrocious! ; ) But, your presentation is hot stuff! I love it!!!<div><br></div><div>Team - this is fantastic, exactly the type of stuff I think will be critical to showing historical mapping in action - the complete workflow of raster to vector for old stuff. we're tracking down some old aerials here in the pac nw, as well.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Shenkar & team - any thoughts on storage? I'm slowly, but surely, cobbling together some storage space, but have been a little sidetracked lately. The machine that's almost ready has 6TB of space.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I like the kickstarter idea - I think if we can get 1 sample up and running, it would go a long way</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks, Jeff</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Steve Doerr <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:doerr.stephen@gmail.com" target="_blank">doerr.stephen@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Can I just say that Thomas Bodley would
no doubt be most distressed to be confused with his namesake,
Thomas Bodely!<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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Mikel, should have some more info on the Sheffield holding
(photos and description) either over the w/e or in a weeks
time. I’m expecting them to be mostly boxed sets and the
coverage mainly focussed on northern England.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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to know about your Bodelian experience.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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[<a href="mailto:mikel_maron@yahoo.com" target="_blank">mailto:mikel_maron@yahoo.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 05 April 2013 16:20<br>
<b>To:</b> Steve Doerr; <a href="mailto:Historic@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">Historic@openstreetmap.org</a>;
<a href="mailto:Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OHM] Fwd: [Talk-GB] Aerial
Photographs<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>Amazing. Sounds like a similar
cache to what's held at Bodelian in Oxford. This
collection of images was acquired by RAF over British
Colonies, and other nations, in order to make ordnance
survey maps. There's over 500K images there. I've
explored it once, and
found/scanned/composited/georeferenced/tiled Nairobi
from 1961. As it was just 50 years, it was out of
copyright (copyright in the case of these images is
presumably owned by the country they were acquired in,
even if they were then a colony).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.5pt">Did a short
presentation on this a couple weeks ago.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.5pt"><a href="http://files.groundtruth.in/presentations/geodc-historic/#17" target="_blank">http://files.groundtruth.in/presentations/geodc-historic/#17</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>My thinking around next step was
something like a Kickstarter to do 10 more global, out
of copyright cities, and build a site to start
distributing and promoting the imagery.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>It's really amazing stuff, a time
machine. Excited to see what's in the Sheffield
cache. Also, we might be able to ask for guidance on
storage from the Bodelian, they were very helpful when
I was working with the archive.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>-Mikel<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>* Mikel Maron * <a href="tel:%2B14152835207" value="+14152835207" target="_blank">+14152835207</a>
@mikel s:mikelmaron<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Steve Doerr <<a href="mailto:doerr.stephen@gmail.com" target="_blank">doerr.stephen@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>To:</b> "<a href="mailto:Historic@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">Historic@openstreetmap.org</a>"
<<a href="mailto:Historic@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">Historic@openstreetmap.org</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 5, 2013 6:08 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [OHM] Fwd: [Talk-GB] Aerial
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nature of this material, I thought I would
copy this here.<br>
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<pre style="background:white"><span>Folks,<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
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<pre style="background:white"><span>Sheffield University has some surplus aerial imagery that could be available<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span>to us if we wish to have it. Its described as a considerable collection<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span>(amounting to around 6 filling<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span>cabinets) of UK (mostly England, and mainly northern England) black & white<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span>9" x 9" photographic prints, dating from around WWII to the early 1980s.<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span>There are a few index sheets, many of the boxed sets are labelled.<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
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<pre style="background:white"><span>I've asked for some more details so that we might consider storage<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span>requirements (They are currently temporarily stored in a garage but need to<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span>be in a dry low humidity room really) and should get some photos of what it<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span>all looks like in the next few days.<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
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<pre style="background:white"><span>In the meantime two questions for UK OSMers:<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
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<pre style="background:white"><span>1. Do you think this is a resource that we should go for and build upon as a<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span>sub-project within OSM?<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span>2. How should we best deal with physical storage until such time as items<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span>can be digitised. The question about what to do with documents (same applies<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span>to all the map sheets I have) after digitising can be left till a later<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span>date.<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
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<pre style="background:white"><span>I'm less worried about scanning and managing the files now as I have<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span>sufficient scanning equipment to cover most bases and disk space attached to<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span>an OSM sever doesn't appear to be an issue. We would need to come up with<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span>tools and methods of turning them into a seamless mosaic but I'm sure given<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span>the task there's a workable solution for that too.<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
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<pre style="background:white"><span>All thoughts, suggestions and offers welcome.<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
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<pre style="background:white"><span>Cheers<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span>Andy<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
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