<div dir="ltr"><div>To recap:</div><div><br></div><div>A time slider is needed in</div><div>- the map editor to allocate a suitable date or a date range to an object</div><div>- the map display to select the correct display date for the map</div>
<div>- the search for historical maps, items, events </div><div><br></div><div>Re: ephemeral data:</div>There was a proposal during the Wikimedia Zürich hackathon to instantiate an OSM repository for such ephemeral data. What would be the drawbacks (and should we continue this in another thread?)<div>
<br></div><div>Susanna</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-05-14 15:07 GMT+03:00 SK53 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sk53.osm@gmail.com" target="_blank">sk53.osm@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Certainly my main concern at the moment is a slider for allocating a suitable active date range to an object in an editor, and my comments have been from that perspective. <br>
<br>I would agree that for consumption of data a single time point selector is needed: I presume that simply dropping one of the end points on the demo sliders would achieve that at a technical level.<br>
<br></div>Two other comments: <br><ul><li>I think some of the early use cases for OHM were for mapping military campaigns (and specifically WWI battlefields) in which case day level granularity is needed on the sliders.</li>
<li>I realise I'm not clear about where we propose to store event related location data (for instance, locations of ships in a sea battle, such as Jutland/Skaggerak). This type of truly ephemeral data does not fit particularly well with the OSM-derived model. </li>
</ul><p>Jerry<br></p></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 14 May 2014 12:49, Susanna Ånäs <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:susanna.anas@gmail.com" target="_blank">susanna.anas@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>I agree with Jan that selecting a time range for the map is not as good as a point in time, and also with Micru that it is required for events.</div>
<div><br></div><div>In fact, we may be talking about 2 different selectors with additional filtering and other options for each.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Susanna</div><div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-05-14 9:24 GMT+03:00 David Cuenca <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dacuetu@gmail.com" target="_blank">dacuetu@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Jan: for the map itself a single slider is definitely the easiest/clearest. For displaying events on it, a single slider is too limited, though you could get the same functionality with range queries. ("look for events that happened between 1500 and 1600, display them on a 1555 map")<div>
<br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Micru</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Jan Ainali <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jan.ainali@wikimedia.se" target="_blank">jan.ainali@wikimedia.se</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">What I would like is not primarily a range slider (although there might be cases where that might be interesting). But my primary use case is to see the map for a specific point in time. That also gives the benefit in not having "double" objects at the map. If you have a range, you might have features being built, destroyed and then new ones being built in that range. How would that be rendered?</div>
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<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Derek: nice!<br><br></div>Jerry: it is possible to input the dates in the slider, but it would need a date formatter<br><a href="http://ghusse.github.io/jQRangeSlider/options.html#typeOption" target="_blank">http://ghusse.github.io/jQRangeSlider/options.html#typeOption</a><br>
<br></div>About the precision, I would keep it as simple as possible, with years as default and the option to change it if needed.<br><br></div>Cheers,<br></div>Micru<br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra">
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On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 8:43 PM, SK53 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sk53.osm@gmail.com" target="_blank">sk53.osm@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hi All,<br><br></div>These examples are certainly close to what I started trying to mock up for my recent blog post, but decided would take too long to make look reasonable.<br><br></div>
My one comment on the implementations is that it should be possible to type a date into the text box showing the date on the slider. Ideally the date display would also provide some mechanism to indicate date 'fuzziness'.<br>
<br></div>Way out in the future one might imagine a slider being non-linear using speed of change to allow for more precise date selection (a la panning on tablets/phones).<br><br></div>Jerry<br></div><div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 13 May 2014 18:53, Derek Kniffin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:derek.kniffin@gmail.com" target="_blank">derek.kniffin@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Hi Micru and Jaime,<div><br></div><div>I was just playing with a jsfiddle using jQRangeSlider, to see what I could come up with. Here's what I got:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://jsfiddle.net/vM844/1233/" target="_blank">http://jsfiddle.net/vM844/1233/</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>Hope that helps.</div><div><br></div><div>--Derek</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 1:49 PM, David Cuenca <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dacuetu@gmail.com" target="_blank">dacuetu@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Hi Jaime,<br><br></div>Good starting point. Maybe you could also take a look to this one to get some ideas?<br>
<a href="http://ghusse.github.io/jQRangeSlider/" target="_blank">http://ghusse.github.io/jQRangeSlider/</a><br>
<br></div><div>Some things I like of this one:<br></div><div>- you can drag the central area and both sliders move with it<br></div><div>- the date is displayed in the slider<br></div><div></div><div><br></div><div>Things that it is missing:<br>
</div><div>- a precision selector (century, year, day)<br><br></div><div>Cheers,<br></div><div>Micru<br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Jaime Schatz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jaimelynschatz@gmail.com" target="_blank">jaimelynschatz@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir="ltr">Hi Everyone,<div><br></div><div>I've got a very, very (<b>very</b>) early prototype of a TimeSlider for users to select dates on the OHM. I didn't want to get too far down a rabbit hole without checking in. Not sure if this is the place to post it - it's also on Bugzilla and referenced in the Github issues for OHM. Feedback (on the actual slider as well as on where/how to post things like this) is more than welcome!! <br clear="all">
<div><br></div><div>Github issue: <a href="https://github.com/OpenHistoricalMap/ohm-website/issues/15" target="_blank">https://github.com/OpenHistoricalMap/ohm-website/issues/15</a></div><div>Bugzilla: <a href="https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62900" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62900</a></div>
<div>Protype: <a href="http://jaimelynschatz.github.io/timeslider-mvp.html" target="_blank">http://jaimelynschatz.github.io/timeslider-mvp.html</a></div><span><font color="#888888"><span><font color="#888888"><div>
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