<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Hi Chris,<br><br></div>I would encourage you to add it to OHM rather than OSM. <br><br>You could use the "City Stripping" technique: take the current road layout of Helsinki & progressively remove roads which are newer than your target date. I learnt last week that Prof. Richard Rodger's group at Edinburgh have done this with their <a href="http://gtr.rcuk.ac.uk/project/8A5E20E4-ACD2-4248-97A0-5D6F10AA74FC">MESH </a>project, for at least 7 snapshots of the city's history. (They also make extensive use of current geocoders largely because Edinburgh addresses have been remarkably constant over the past 200 or so years; the ability to geocode historical data such as street directories is a use case which had passed me by).<br>
<br></div>The idea of "City Stripping" is that one is correcting for artefacts of the rectification and of the original printed map by using a more accurate alignment. Of course changes still need to be made where the current roads have been realigned. <br>
<br>If creating a snapshot my current approach is to tag <b>ALL </b>tagged elements with a start_date and end_date which adequately cover the period to which the source map refers. With multiple snapshots the choice of end_date will be affected by the dates of the next newer snapshot.<br>
<br></div>I was going to do this with Tartu, but <a href="http://www.openhistoricalmap.org/go/0w8AFiU1-?layers=H&relation=2153396">at present</a> this has been entirely re-done manually (the level of detail in OSM for Tartu was a bit too much to pare down to what I wanted quickly).<br>
<br></div>It is clear we need some moderate to large scale examples within OHM to both establish ways of doing things and have something concrete to show others.<br><br></div>Jerry<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 28 June 2014 20:59, Chris Helenius <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chris.helenius@gmail.com" target="_blank">chris.helenius@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">The National Archives of Finland just published a map, from 1823, with the old winding streets of Helsinki, overlayed on the then-planned and now current street grid. <a href="http://digi.narc.fi/digi/slistaus.ka?ay=222866" target="_blank">http://digi.narc.fi/digi/slistaus.ka?ay=222866</a><div>
<br></div><div>Here is my rectification which can be used in JOSM: <a href="http://mapwarper.net/maps/3371#Preview_Map_tab" target="_blank">http://mapwarper.net/maps/3371#Preview_Map_tab</a><br></div><div><div><br></div>
<div>It most likely displays the largest extent of the historical Helsinki at its current position, before the straightening of the roads.<br>
</div><div><br></div><div>It doesn't display all of the buildings, mostly plots on the centre area and some outlying buildings at the wharf in south.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Mapping the historical city has been a desire of mine for several years, but is it OK to just map currently nonexistent features on an already very crowded district? </div>
<div><br></div><div>Wouldn't that make the map view, when editing and downloading data, even more messy?</div><div><br></div><div>It also raises the question of correct tags. Should they be was:landuse=residential; end_date:1823?</div>
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