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<p>Hey Jeff and others,</p>
<p>Thanks for your reply.</p>
<p>So, first of all, Open Summer of Code is a yearly event organized
by Open Knowledge Belgium. They gather a lot of students, they
gather a lot of clients with a project (and funding for the
project). During July, the students work in groups of around 4 on
a project, I will be their coach.</p>
<p>The client is a small heritage organization based in Flanders.
They already had a project to map chimneys and old industrial
buildings. Some are still existing, others are already torn down.
Their map can be found here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.erfgoedzuidwest.be/content/ik-xploreer-mee">http://www.erfgoedzuidwest.be/content/ik-xploreer-mee</a></p>
<p>They noticed that adding and managing geodata is pretty hard, and
they want a solution which does everything they need (which is an
awful lot).</p>
<p>For that, I had the idea to build upon OHM, and provide a custom
iD-editor with at least:</p>
<p>- Presets for chimneys, industrial buildings and similar</p>
<p>- Custom WMS-layers (they have a few WMS'es with old aerial
imagery, but I might add in some layers from
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://play.osm.be/historischekaart.html">https://play.osm.be/historischekaart.html</a> as well)</p>
<p>I personally have already some experience with tweaking iD (the
company I work for has a custom iD as well) - but the students
will have to do that ;)</p>
<p>If there is still some time left, we might also polish some of
the texts of OHM itself (because a lot of the things are still
pointing towards OSM, not OHM). We'll see how far we'll get and
how much of that is still needed by then, I didn't dive into the
details of the proposed changes mentioned.</p>
<p>For the workflow - the easiest would probably be to clone your
repos, work on them within the team and do a PR when things are
somewhat finished. <br>
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<p>At last, I'm also a little worried about one aspect: inputting
data is one thing, but if it is not possible to get it back, it's
all a little useless. For now, the <b>overpass</b>-instance seems
to be down. Do plans exist to revive it? Or do other ways exist to
get the data (e.g. loading via JOSM/QGIS/...)? And how easy is it
to customize your slider-example? The client will definitely want
to visualize all their data, both digitally and in print.</p>
<p>And how well-supported is the project? Will it all be hosted for
the coming years? We have a small budget for hosting as well,
perhaps we can help a little bit their (although the details will
be messy and we'll have to work something out with invoices and
such...)<br>
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<p>So, I hope you guys have a clearer idea of our project now!</p>
<p>I'll try to chime in on the next dev meeting, 12th of June at
10:00AM in Pacific Time (which is at 7 PM for me in Central
European Time). <br>
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<p>And sorry for hijacking the mail thread a little, but previously,
my mails got lost unless they were replies so...<br>
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<p>With kind regards and looking forward to an answer,</p>
<p>Pieter Vander Vennet<br>
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<p>On 04.06.19 23:11, Jeff Meyer wrote:<br>
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<div>That is awesome. If you'd like, you can make some mods to
ID in our repo here: <a
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<div>What presets did you have in mind?</div>
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<div>Jim, Seth - what's the best way for Pieter to help out
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<div>Thanks,</div>
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<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I'm afraid my previous email has been lost into the void.</p>
<p>I will be the coach for Open Summer Of Code coming july.
A small heritage organisation asked us to create 'some
tool to make adding heritage data easier'.</p>
<p>I was planning to create an iD-fork for OHM with presets
that they would need - is that a good idea?</p>
<p>The slider is pretty cool btw!<br>
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<div>We had a good meeting this past Wednesday - thanks
to all attendees: Bert de Brujin, Charlotte Wolter,
Gregor Allenworth, Rob Warren, and Seth Fitzsimmons.</div>
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<div>Updates:</div>
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<div>- Gregor provided an overview of the <u>latest
timeslider demo</u> (see here: <a
href="https://openhistoricalmap.github.io/openhistoricaltiles/mbgl-control-timeslider/demo/#15.000/49.55012/17.72994/1830,1800-1900"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://openhistoricalmap.github.io/openhistoricaltiles/mbgl-control-timeslider/demo/#15.000/49.55012/17.72994/1830,1800-1900</a>)</div>
<div>- Updates to the functionality include:</div>
<div> -- <u>Greater tolerance for incomplete date tags</u>
(e.g. it works with just year tags in smart ways)</div>
<div> -- <u>Support for negative dates</u> (!) - this
is a big deal, as normal database handling and
internet date standards (ISO 8601) don't support this.
Now, we can now go back into BCE - check this out: <a
href="https://openhistoricalmap.github.io/openhistoricaltiles/mbgl-control-timeslider/demo/#15.998/29.97424/31.13004/-2493,-4000-2018"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://openhistoricalmap.github.io/openhistoricaltiles/mbgl-control-timeslider/demo/#15.998/29.97424/31.13004/-2493,-4000-2018</a> </div>
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<div>- Seth provided updates on:</div>
<div> - <u>Border handling at both high and low zoom
levels</u> - this is different from how OSM handles
borders, so this will be cool - you can get a preview
of how this works with Maine's historical borders
here: <a
href="https://openhistoricalmap.github.io/openhistoricaltiles/mbgl-control-timeslider/demo/#6.247/45.93660/-67.31992/1784,1700-1900"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://openhistoricalmap.github.io/openhistoricaltiles/mbgl-control-timeslider/demo/#6.247/45.93660/-67.31992/1784,1700-1900</a></div>
<div> - <u>Integrating the time slider with the rest
of the OHM site</u> (aka the "Rails app") in the
next couple of weeks</div>
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<div>- Operating model updates</div>
<div> -- Discussed how decision making process will
work within the OHM community. </div>
<div> -- Rob agreed to look at the updates we are
proposing and if ok,,deploy them at some point in the
near future. Changes can be found at: <a
href="https://github.com/OpenHistoricalMap/ohm-website"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/OpenHistoricalMap/ohm-website</a></div>
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<div>- Transition / launch strategy</div>
<div> -- Bert had a good suggestion that we may want to
run the new / vector tile-based site in parallel with
the existing site while we prove its reliability.
We'll be taking a look at how to make that possible.</div>
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<div>- Grant writing</div>
<div> -- Charlotte offered to help write grant
proposals to help fund OHM. This is awesome! I believe
we'll need to do a few things before we can truly
pursue funding: a) have a published governance model,
b) have a site that shows more of the capabilities /
applicability of this effort to 3rd parties, and c)
some affiliation with a non-profit organization,
either our own or an affiliate/sponsoring institution.</div>
<div> -- I believe we can & should use the time
that taking care of a, b, and c above will take to
identify and strategize around sources of funding.
Charlotte brought up Knight as a potential source.</div>
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<div>- Marketing updates</div>
<div> -- Jeff had not much to report here, but will
start writing how-to's.</div>
<div> -- If anyone has or knows of particularly good
examples to input to put into OHM, please let me know.
We chould potentially feature them as case studies.</div>
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<div>As always, please let me know if you have any
questions.</div>
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<div>Next meetings:</div>
<div>12 June, 10am PT, <a
href="http://meet.google.com/bbn-yhvo-cps"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">meet.google.com/bbn-yhvo-cps</a></div>
<div>26 June, 10am PT, <a
href="http://meet.google.com/bbn-yhvo-cps"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">meet.google.com/bbn-yhvo-cps</a></div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Jeff</div>
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