<div dir="ltr">Hi Hannes - <div><br></div><div>I LOVE these layers. Thank you!!!</div><div><br></div><div>This tweet contains diagrams that show how to add those layers (1 at a time) to iD: <a href="https://twitter.com/OpenHistMap/status/1279135482283085824">https://twitter.com/OpenHistMap/status/1279135482283085824</a></div><div><br></div><div>The general problem you're describing (not having cool historic baselayers automatically show up in iD) could be solved by having an OHM-specific Editor Layer Index (<a href="https://github.com/osmlab/editor-layer-index">https://github.com/osmlab/editor-layer-index</a>) & having OHM's iD point at that. That's a brilliant idea. I've opened a ticket to do just that. It might actually be relatively easy, but "easy" things rarely are & still take work. : ) (<a href="https://github.com/OpenHistoricalMap/issues/issues/122">https://github.com/OpenHistoricalMap/issues/issues/122</a>) A cool side note: ELI works in JOSM with a small preference setting change. 2 for the price of 1.</div><div><br></div><div>And, THANK YOU for editing the Wiki page. Fortune favors the bold, my friend!</div><div>(Piclayer can indeed be fussy, but with a little practice, it's pretty cool)</div><div><br></div><div>Those Orthos are quite cool, as well.</div><div><br></div><div>These are all awesome & exciting suggestions - I encourage others to share their thoughts and experiences and to check out Hannes' links.</div><div><br></div><div>: )<br>Jeff</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 10:55 PM Hannes Röst <<a href="mailto:hannesroest@gmail.com">hannesroest@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Dear Jeff and others<br>
<br>
Currently the default iD editor seems to have the same background<br>
layers available as OSM and I currently dont see any customization for<br>
OHM. I think it would be cool to have a few pre-set options to choose<br>
from to get people started. I know this can be configured to be region<br>
specific (for example if I go to Switzerland, Thurgau then the "Kanton<br>
Thurgau OF 2017" shows up but nowhere else since these fotos are only<br>
there for Thurgau) so it would be great to collect a bunch of<br>
background tiles one could use.<br>
<br>
Digital Atlas of the Roman Empire (DARE):<br>
<a href="https://dh.gu.se/tiles/imperium/%7Bz%7D/%7Bx%7D/%7By%7D.png" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://dh.gu.se/tiles/imperium/{z}/{x}/{y}.png</a> (CC BY 4.0, Europe<br>
specific)<br>
Sulzberger map:<br>
<a href="http://warper.wmflabs.org/maps/tile/3271/%7Bz%7D/%7Bx%7D/%7By%7D.png" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://warper.wmflabs.org/maps/tile/3271/{z}/{x}/{y}.png</a> (CC0,<br>
location-specific)<br>
<br>
I think this could help "newbies" quite a bit and give them a cool<br>
place to start mapping. It could also help with attribution since we<br>
could store what source information was used for each object and edit.<br>
The least we could do is collect a few "interesting" layers on the<br>
wiki and help newbies to get started.<br>
<br>
Of course eventually this could be location and time-period specific<br>
and the "right" background map could just show up "magically" on the<br>
right side for mapping.<br>
<br>
I know that this functionality already exists on the Warper side (eg<br>
<a href="http://warper.wmflabs.org/maps//3271#Trace_tab" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://warper.wmflabs.org/maps//3271#Trace_tab</a>) but there are more<br>
maps out there then what Warper has and some countries provide tiles<br>
for historic maps. Have you previously thought about that?<br>
<br>
Secondly, it took me some time (and struggling with the very limited<br>
PicLayer JOSM plugging that can only use 3 control points and seems to<br>
do very limited warping) to actually find the Warper and the wiki page<br>
<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/MapWarper" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/MapWarper</a> is only mentioned once<br>
in a long list of tools. I was bold and added this workflow to the<br>
wiki page myself:<br>
<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Historical_Map#How_to_trace_a_historic_map_in_OHM" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Historical_Map#How_to_trace_a_historic_map_in_OHM</a><br>
for other to find more easily<br>
<br>
Thirdly, just to bother you more with my usecase: the Swiss Cantons<br>
provide access to Orthofotos layers and they have them historic!<br>
(yay!). Now that may be a cool usecase for this to play around:<br>
<a href="https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Maps/Switzerland" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Maps/Switzerland</a> - for example grab<br>
the<br>
<br>
Kanton Glarus Orthophoto 2013 {view}<br>
Kanton Glarus Orthophoto 2015 {view}<br>
Kanton Glarus Orthophoto 2017 {view}<br>
<br>
and you have historic 4 years of Orthophoto (Switzerland has these<br>
going back to the 70s but probably not all under suitable licence).<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Best<br>
<br>
Hannes<br>
<br>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font size="1">Jeff Meyer</font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="1">206-676-2347<br></font><div><span style="font-size:x-small">osm: </span><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Historical_Map" style="font-size:x-small" target="_blank">Open Historical Map (OHM)</a><span style="font-size:x-small"> / </span><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jeffmeyer" style="font-size:x-small" target="_blank">my OSM user page</a><br></div><div><div><font size="1">t: @OpenHistMap </font></div><div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><font size="1"><br></font><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>