<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Hi Mikel, </div><div><br></div>While there are several clear solutions that are unrealistic to propose in your meeting, I would just like to see a tool that allows users to to export data most of the data that they create in Google Maps.<div><div><div><br></div><div><div>Is that too much to ask? I can see that a technical barrier would be an way to differentiate between original user data entry and modifications of existing data. If someone edits a big interchange with a 5 year history of 99% proprietary edits, Google isn't going to give that data back. But if you are mapping completely new roads and POIs in the developing world ... you should be able to do a significant export.</div><div><br></div><div>PS I don't understand how the WB got itself into this, aren't they all lawyers? How can OSM make it clearer that there is a cost to using proprietary data? It has a toxic touch.</div><div><br></div><div>PPS it seems like better UX and design at OSM could be the root cause of them working with Google in the first place — does this seem accurate? Or are there deeper architectural/technical/business reasons that WB is going with Google?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div>c</div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><div>On Feb 2, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Mikel Maron wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; position: static; z-index: auto; "><div><span>They're talking about me. Don't get too excited. I'll probably have a lot more to say soon. Would love to hear some feedback ...</span></div><div> </div><div>* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Iván Sánchez Ortega <<a href="mailto:ivan@sanchezortega.es">ivan@sanchezortega.es</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org">hot@openstreetmap.org</a> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday,
February 2, 2012 1:37 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [HOT] Meeting with WB about MapMaker?<br> </font> </div> <br>
Hi all,<br><br><br>A news item got my attention a few minutes ago:<br><br><a href="http://techpresident.com/news/21709/google-world-bank-deal-ask-too-much-crowd">http://techpresident.com/news/21709/google-world-bank-deal-ask-too-much-crowd</a><br><br>Quote:<br><br>«Aleem Walji, practice manager of the World Bank's innovation practice, said <br>Thursday that he would be sitting down with people from [...] the open-source <br>mapping group OpenStreetMap to discuss a partnership between the bank and <br>Google that would see the search giant's Google Map Maker tool put to use in <br>developing countries.»<br><br><br>I'm wondering if they refer to someone from the OSM Foundation, or someone <br>from HOT. I'd love to see some feedback regarding this issue over this <br>mailing list.<br><br><br>Best,<br>-- <br>Iván Sánchez Ortega <<a ymailto="mailto:ivan@sanchezortega.es" href="mailto:ivan@sanchezortega.es">ivan@sanchezortega.es</a>> <<a ymailto="mailto:ivan@geonerd.org" href="mailto:ivan@geonerd.org">ivan@geonerd.org</a>><br><br>Here
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