<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Strongly second Kate's view. Deployment to a disaster zone is very complicated and risky endeavor. </span></div><div><span>We'd do best with our resources to support organizations like MapAction, UN agencies, and NGOs, so that they can work with OSM and relate with HOT in an efficient manner.</span></div><div><span>Probably the best way to help that happen is by HOTties training and embedding with MapAction. Harry Wood has attended a weekend training, previously, and I know they are very open to more.</span></div><div> </div><div>* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Kate Chapman <kate@maploser.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Fran Boon <francisboon@gmail.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Séverin MENARD <severin.menard@gmail.com>; hot@openstreetmap.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, March 16, 2012 8:00 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [HOT] 1st Activation Working Group meeting report<br> </font> </div> <br>
I personally think we should first focus on remote deployment. If you<br>look at the way MapAction runs for example there is quite a bit of<br>infrastructure in place to support those deploying to the ground. At<br>the moment I think we can be most effective by supporting responders<br>and then providing training during the recover period. Or in the best<br>cases training and organization around preparedness.<br><br>There have been discussions with potential partners before about<br>potential deployments, but I think HOT itself as an organization needs<br>some time before that can be a reality. Just the potentials of<br>insurance, making sure people are properly vaccinated and things like<br>that would keep me up at night.<br><br>Additionally there just aren't that many people in HOT with the right<br>type of field experience right now. Beyond activation procedures<br>there is a lot of training methodologies that would need to be
worked<br>out first. Though continuing with internship programs and workshops<br>is a good start.<br><br>I'd also be interested to compare position descriptions for<br>preparedness to those for response. They might not be exactly the<br>same.<br><br>-Kate<br><br>On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Fran Boon <<a ymailto="mailto:francisboon@gmail.com" href="mailto:francisboon@gmail.com">francisboon@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> On 16 March 2012 13:36, Séverin MENARD <<a ymailto="mailto:severin.menard@gmail.com" href="mailto:severin.menard@gmail.com">severin.menard@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> Soory I missed this chat but will be present to the next one.<br>>> Remote response apart, what should be our potential ground deployment ? I<br>>> think a ground team who would activate and train quickly the local<br>>> communities, could drive the HOT remote support, provide imagery feedbacks<br>>> (precise
GPS coordinates, interpretation, etc.) or even imagery itself taken<br>>> by a drone (some tests are ongoing in Haiti) would make sense. IMHO HOT's<br>>> kind of uniqueness is to be able to provide coordinated ground and remote<br>>> response.<br>><br>> Hi Severin,<br>><br>> What you outline sounds great, however it requires an essential<br>> element which remote support doesn't: $<br>> A remote support can be done using relatively little volunteer time to<br>> set up & then it's up to the community how much they're able to engage<br>> in the actual work - as HOT we cannot be responsible for that - we<br>> just set up the infrastructure and make the call (being careful not to<br>> abuse this so we don't get volunteer fatigue).<br>><br>> Ground support would either require HOT to have it's own funds or else<br>> to have the requesting Organisation sponsor it (even if the time was<br>> all
donated).<br>> I agree that we should have a clause in about this and this can start<br>> by saying 'As HOT has no funds of it's own, a ground support request<br>> would require the requesting organisation to find funds for this'<br>> What else do we need to define around this?<br>> * Role descriptions (I know Kate has done this)<br>> * Being sure we don't send people out uninsured?<br>> * Being sure that people we send out are suitably qualified?<br>> * Being sure that people we send out are suitably equipped? (which<br>> might not require very much)<br>><br>> Anything else?<br>><br>> F<br>><br>><br>>> Severin<br>>><br>>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:00 AM, <<a ymailto="mailto:hot-request@openstreetmap.org" href="mailto:hot-request@openstreetmap.org">hot-request@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br>>>><br>>>> Send HOT mailing list submissions to<br>>>>
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digest..."<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> Today's Topics:<br>>>><br>>>> 1. 1st Activation Working Group meeting report (Schuyler Erle)<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>>>><br>>>> Message: 1<br>>>> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:22:42 +0530<br>>>> From: Schuyler Erle <<a ymailto="mailto:schuyler@nocat.net" href="mailto:schuyler@nocat.net">schuyler@nocat.net</a>><br>>>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org" href="mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org">hot@openstreetmap.org</a><br>>>> Subject: [HOT] 1st Activation Working Group meeting report<br>>>> Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:D9457753-91DC-408A-BCA7-DE66B48D90A9@nocat.net" href="mailto:D9457753-91DC-408A-BCA7-DE66B48D90A9@nocat.net">D9457753-91DC-408A-BCA7-DE66B48D90A9@nocat.net</a>><br>>>>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<br>>>><br>>>> Hello Team,<br>>>><br>>>> Today we had the first meeting of the HOT Activation Working Group on the<br>>>> IRC channel. The meeting lasted an hour. Pierre Beland, Fran Boon, Andrew<br>>>> Buck, Robert Banick, Harry Wood, and I participated.<br>>>><br>>>> The stated objective of the working group is to develop a strategy and<br>>>> tactics for optimally allocating HOT's resources in response to humanitarian<br>>>> crisis. We noted that humanitarian crises range quite widely in severity and<br>>>> in level of international response, and that HOT's response should be<br>>>> commensurate with the degree to which our services will be used by<br>>>> responders on the ground.<br>>>><br>>>> The substance of the discussion today revolved around identifying
HOT's<br>>>> possible responses to crisis (including documenting data sources, acquiring<br>>>> imagery, setting up volunteer tasking services, and mobilizing volunteers),<br>>>> and working backwards to identify the triggers for those activities.<br>>>><br>>>> We also discussed at length the distinction between "activation", and<br>>>> simply responding to requests made by partner organizations. We agreed (I<br>>>> believe) that prompt and reliable response to partner inquiries should be a<br>>>> priority for HOT and should be taken up as a subject for discussion and<br>>>> recommendation by the working group.<br>>>><br>>>> I think that the working group members agreed to start documenting some of<br>>>> these ideas on the OSM wiki for further discussion. We also agreed after<br>>>> talking for an hour to pick up the discussion again one
week from today, at<br>>>> 14:00 UTC on Thu 22 Mar 2012.<br>>>><br>>>> The IRC log for today's meeting is here:<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OpenStreetMap_Team/Activation_Working_Group_22_Mar_2012" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OpenStreetMap_Team/Activation_Working_Group_22_Mar_2012</a><br>>>><br>>>> Hope to see those of you who are interested in the subject on #hot next<br>>>> Thursday! I'll send out a reminder a couple days ahead of time. Cheers!<br>>>><br>>>> SDE<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> ------------------------------<br>>>><br>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>> HOT mailing list<br>>>> <a ymailto="mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org"
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