<div dir="ltr">Ok, I've gone further with my experimentations.<div style>I'm really not satisfied with the validation workflow and I've tried to change it completely.</div><div style><br></div><div style>I'm convinced that it's not really a requirement to be able to "validate" tiles. It appears (looking at the statistics) that very few tiles have been marked as valid in the past jobs. I suppose that's because validation itself is not easy. It's easy to tell that a tile in invalid though. Thus, it's really a requirement to be able to "invalidate" tiles.</div>
<div style>In the version currently installed on dev server, the "validation" button doesn't exist anymore. The tiles can now take only 2 statuses "done" or "not done". Colors have been changed too. They're now more "common" to people's habits and they match the buttons colors too.</div>
<div style>Also, there's no need to lock a tile to tell it's invalidate. I think this should be a quick process.</div><div style><br></div><div style>I intend to add a "message box". Users could for example receive messages from the application to be informed that a tile they previously worked on has been invalidated.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>One other thing I changed is the "users tab". I simplified things by removing the numbers telling how much the users worked. As someone already told me, this is not a race. We don't need a winner.</div>
<div style>What I added though is the availability to see which tiles the given users worked on by highlighting them on the map. This feature has been asked several times.</div><div style><br></div><div style>Once again, feedbacks are welcome.</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Augustin Doury <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:augustin.doury@hotosm.org" target="_blank">augustin.doury@hotosm.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Sorry for this second email, I just want to add something about this point of my last email :<div><br></div>
<div><div class="im"><div><font color="#990000">1) Limit how many times you could split the tasks, for a zoom level of 17, maybe not more than once.</font></div>
<div><font color="#990000">> sometimes tasks are splitted twice or more, it really slows the mapping.</font></div><div><br></div></div><div><font color="#000000">On the "users" page,the number of tiles done by a contributor could depend on the size of the tiles he has done :<br>
- if he did not split tiles, show "1" for one tile</font></div><div><font color="#000000">- if he did, show "0,25" for one tile which is from a tile splitted once.</font></div><div><font color="#000000"><br>
</font></div><div><font color="#000000">Augustin</font></div><div><div class="h5"><div><font color="#000000"><br></font></div><div>On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Augustin Doury <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:augustin.doury@hotosm.org" target="_blank">augustin.doury@hotosm.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi! Couple things I realized this morning using the Tasking Manager :</div>
<div><br></div><div>1) Limit how many times you could split the tasks, for a zoom level of 17, maybe not more than once.</div>
<div>> sometimes tasks are splitted twice or more, it really slows the mapping.</div><div><br></div><div>2) Make it easy to find which task you're working on,</div><div>In the current version all "current worked on" tasks are highlighted in orange, maybe the task linked to your OSM account could be highlighted in an other colour.</div>
<div><br></div><div>3) It's too easy to delete a task, it could be great to add one step more for security checking</div><div><br></div><div>Great to imagine how the new version will be!</div><span><font color="#888888"><div>
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</div><div>Augustin</div></font></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Augustin Doury <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:augustin.doury@hotosm.org" target="_blank">augustin.doury@hotosm.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div class="h5"><div>Thanks for that Pierre! Here are some comments : <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Pierre GIRAUD <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pierre.giraud@gmail.com" target="_blank">pierre.giraud@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div><br></div></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">
<div> - with this in mind, tiles url (in the address bar) can be used to be shared to someone else. This might be useful to use a tile as reference in a discussion between mappers,</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>
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<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">> this is a real enhancement, especially with new mappers who want to have their work checked or to share it easily. I would use it like every week.</span></div>
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<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"> <div> - comments are now required when marking a task as done or (in)validating one,</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div style="font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">> great, it could be good to have an informative message to explain what kind of comment is expected,</div>
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<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">> maybe the person who create the job could choose this informative message.</span></div><div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div> - users have access to the tile change history.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">> this is a real enhancement too I think</span></div>
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<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">
<div><br></div><div>Please write down any problems you see and your good or bad feelings.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div><div>Something that could be great on the Tasking Manager's "users" page : </div>
<div><br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div>By clicking on the OSMid of a contributor or a validator, be able to :</div><div> </div><div>- know which tile he has edited </div><div>
- know which tile he has marked as "done" </div><div>- which tile he has validated</div><div>- and be able to select it easily and open it in "read-only" mode. </div><div>Great for quality assurance with new mappers, and great to find which tile you have worked on yesterday.</div>
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<div>Thanks.</div><div><br></div><div>Off topic question:</div><div>
I'm not sure how important the locking is when an advanced user wants to (in)validate the work done on a job.</div>
<div>How about allowing validation without any lock. Or maybe we should rethink the validation process.</div><div>Any thoughts?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">> when a new register click on a task marked as done, he uses to validate or invalidate it quickly and don't think to just click on "unlock-it"...</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">I think a new validation process could be great, let it open for everybody but be sure that all validators did it in an informed way and don't validate or invalidate a task by mistake.</span></div>
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<div>Pierre</div>
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