<div dir="ltr">Agreed.<div style>Taken into account.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Pierre Béland <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:infosbelas-gps@yahoo.fr" target="_blank">infosbelas-gps@yahoo.fr</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Hi Pierre<br><br>In the Users tab, I agree to remove the stats for each user. It should be enough to highlight for each user the tasks done.. I also agree to remove the Validate option. When we invalidate, we have the option to give a comment. This would also be a good option to send and email to the user.<br>
<br>To show the tiles to be selected, I prefer the light grey like in the previous version. I find this less confusing the the red color.<br><br>There are two circumstances where the message to invalidate a tile is showed. I would treat these two events differently as described below.<br>
<br>Event 1. The user locked a tile to work on; when he click to Mark task as done, the tile is still selected and the Invalidate button message is showed. It would probably be better to unselect the tile and show the Take a task
message.<br><br>Event 2 : The user selects a tile already done; in this case, both the Invalidate button and the Clear selection option should be offered.<br> <br><div><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0,0,191);font-weight:bold">Pierre <br>
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<div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">De :</span></b> Pierre GIRAUD <<a href="mailto:pierre.giraud@gmail.com" target="_blank">pierre.giraud@gmail.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">À :</span></b> Augustin Doury <<a href="mailto:augustin.doury@hotosm.org" target="_blank">augustin.doury@hotosm.org</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc :</span></b> HOT Openstreetmap <<a href="mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">hot@openstreetmap.org</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Envoyé le :</span></b> Dimanche 13 janvier 2013 15h30<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Objet :</span></b> Re: [HOT] [Tasking Manager] enhancements - testers required<br> </font> </div><div><div class="h5"> <br><div><div dir="ltr">Ok, I've gone further with my experimentations.<div>
I'm really not satisfied with the validation workflow and I've tried to change it completely.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm convinced that it's not really a requirement to be able to "validate" tiles. It appears (looking at the statistics) that very few tiles have been marked as valid in the past jobs. I suppose that's because validation itself is not easy. It's easy to tell that a tile in invalid though. Thus, it's really a requirement to be able to "invalidate" tiles.</div>
<div>In the version currently installed on dev server, the "validation" button doesn't exist anymore. The tiles can now take only 2 statuses "done" or "not done". Colors have been changed too. They're now more "common" to people's habits and they match the buttons colors too.</div>
<div>Also, there's no need to lock a tile to tell it's invalidate. I think this should be a quick process.</div><div><br></div><div>I intend to add a "message box". Users could for example receive messages from the application to be informed that a tile they previously worked on has been invalidated.</div>
<div><br></div><div>One other thing I changed is the "users tab". I simplified things by removing the numbers telling how much the users worked. As someone already told me, this is not a race. We don't need a winner.</div>
<div>What I added though is the availability to see which tiles the given users worked on by highlighting them on the map. This feature has been asked several times.</div><div><br></div><div>Once again, feedbacks are welcome.</div>
</div><div><br><br><div>On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Augustin Doury <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:augustin.doury@hotosm.org" target="_blank">augustin.doury@hotosm.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Sorry for this second email, I just want to add something about this point of my last email :<div><br></div>
<div><div><div><font color="#990000">1) Limit how many times you could split the tasks, for a zoom level of 17, maybe not more than once.</font></div>
<div><font color="#990000">> sometimes tasks are splitted twice or more, it really slows the mapping.</font></div><div><br></div></div><div><font color="#000000">On the "users" page,the number of tiles done by a contributor could depend on the size of the tiles he has done :<br>
- if he did not split tiles, show "1" for one tile</font></div><div><font color="#000000">- if he did, show "0,25" for one tile which is from a tile splitted once.</font></div><div><font color="#000000"><br>
</font></div><div><font color="#000000">Augustin</font></div><div><div><div><font color="#000000"><br></font></div><div>On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Augustin Doury <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:augustin.doury@hotosm.org" target="_blank">augustin.doury@hotosm.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi! Couple things I realized this morning using the Tasking Manager :</div>
<div><br></div><div>1) Limit how many times you could split the tasks, for a zoom level of 17, maybe not more than once.</div>
<div>> sometimes tasks are splitted twice or more, it really slows the mapping.</div><div><br></div><div>2) Make it easy to find which task you're working on,</div><div>In the current version all "current worked on" tasks are highlighted in orange, maybe the task linked to your OSM account could be highlighted in an other colour.</div>
<div><br></div><div>3) It's too easy to delete a task, it could be great to add one step more for security checking</div><div><br></div><div>Great to imagine how the new version will be!</div><span><font color="#888888"><div>
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</div><div>Augustin</div></font></span></div></div></div><div><div><div><br><br><div><div><div>On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Augustin Doury <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:augustin.doury@hotosm.org" target="_blank">augustin.doury@hotosm.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Thanks for that Pierre! Here are some comments : <br>
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<div><div>On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Pierre GIRAUD <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:pierre.giraud@gmail.com" target="_blank">pierre.giraud@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div><br></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">
<div> - with this in mind, tiles url (in the address bar) can be used to be shared to someone else. This might be useful to use a tile as reference in a discussion between mappers,</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>
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<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">> this is a real enhancement, especially with new mappers who want to have their work checked or to share it easily. I would use it like every week.</span></div>
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<div> </div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"> <div> - comments are now required when marking a task as done or (in)validating one,</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div style="font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">> great, it could be good to have an informative message to explain what kind of comment is expected,</div>
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<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">> maybe the person who create the job could choose this informative message.</span></div><div><div> </div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div> - users have access to the tile change history.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">> this is a real enhancement too I think</span></div>
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<div> </div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">
<div><br></div><div>Please write down any problems you see and your good or bad feelings.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div><div>Something that could be great on the Tasking Manager's "users" page : </div>
<div><br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div>By clicking on the OSMid of a contributor or a validator, be able to :</div><div> </div><div>- know which tile he has edited </div><div>
- know which tile he has marked as "done" </div><div>- which tile he has validated</div><div>- and be able to select it easily and open it in "read-only" mode. </div><div>Great for quality assurance with new mappers, and great to find which tile you have worked on yesterday.</div>
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<div>Thanks.</div><div><br></div><div>Off topic question:</div><div>
I'm not sure how important the locking is when an advanced user wants to (in)validate the work done on a job.</div>
<div>How about allowing validation without any lock. Or maybe we should rethink the validation process.</div><div>Any thoughts?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">> when a new register click on a task marked as done, he uses to validate or invalidate it quickly and don't think to just click on "unlock-it"...</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">I think a new validation process could be great, let it open for everybody but be sure that all validators did it in an informed way and don't validate or invalidate a task by mistake.</span></div>
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