<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"><base href="x-msg://186/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Yohan,<div><br></div><div>Excellent work, thrilled about this!<div><br></div><div>The HDM-specific rendering + iconography is critical!</div><div><br></div><div>great work/more please :)</div><div><br></div><div>c</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jun 21, 2013, at 7:15 AM, "Banick, Robert" <<a href="mailto:Robert.Banick@redcross.org">Robert.Banick@redcross.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Hi Yohan,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Fantastic! I’ve had numerous trainees complain about stuff not showing up on the map, and wow, this gets right at that. It also looks better than the default OSM tiles :-)<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Totally agreed that a legend / map key is needed. The American Red Cross would be happy to help with making that if we can get specifications on what’s needed / how you’d like to see it.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Speaking of which, if we have anything else in mind that might merit a place on the map, would we be able to discuss with you all further and/or assist with symbology? We’re eager to be contributors and not just users.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Robert<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Georgia, serif; color: rgb(192, 0, 0); ">Robert Banick</span></b><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Georgia, serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> | </span><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Georgia, serif; color: rgb(192, 0, 0); ">Field GIS Coordinator</span><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Georgia, serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> | </span><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Georgia, serif; color: rgb(192, 0, 0); ">International Services</span><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Georgia, serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> | </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Wingdings 2'; color: red; ">Ì</span><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Georgia, serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> <a href="http://www.redcross.org/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">American Red Cross</a></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Stéphane Henriod [mailto:s@henriod.info]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, June 21, 2013 2:51 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">HOT@openstreetmap.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [HOT] HOT/HDM web rendering<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Hi Yohan!<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">this is indeed amazing and exaclty what was needed! So many people have already complained that they digitize stuff "that doesn't appear on the map"!<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">I second David, once the icons and styles will be in reasonnably final stage, it would be necessary to have a map legend / key. And also maybe to host it on a server with a shorter / more explicit name (<a href="http://humanitarianmap.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">humanitarianmap.org</a>? or whatever in this direction). And, naturally, if there was a possibility to serve the whole planet file, it would be even more amazing! :-)<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Very well done the CAP103 team!<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Stéphane<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br clear="all"><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">--<br>"Le mot progrès n'aura aucun sens tant qu'il y aura des enfants malheureux" -- Albert Einstein<br><br>"A journey does not need reasons. Before long, it proves to be reason enough in itself. One thinks that one is going to make a journey, yet soon it is the journey that makes or unmakes you." -- Nicolas Bouvier<br><br>Photos de voyages, photos de montagne:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.henriod.info/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.henriod.info</a> <o:p></o:p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 8:18 AM, David Schmitt <<a href="mailto:david@black.co.at" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">david@black.co.at</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Hi Yohan,<br><br>On 2013-06-20 23:00, Yohan Boniface wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Hi Hotties,<br><br>It's time to introduce the work being done on a humanitarian (HDM)<br>specific rendering.<br><br>TL;DR:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://umap.fluv.io/en/map/hdm-first-draft_728" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">http://umap.fluv.io/en/map/hdm-first-draft_728</a><o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">I will now share with you the work in progress on the web rendering step.<br><br>This web rendering has several goals:<br>One is simply to give editors a way to see the HDM OSM data without<br>having to use JOSM or a SQL console.<br>Another is to give humanitarian actors and developing countries a web<br>map that gives them the information they need, making OSM more and more<br>useful.<br>Finally, this is the occasion for HOT to have its own rendering, a nice<br>way to illustrate its work!<br><br>What does "highlight the HDM" means for a rendering? The main principle<br>is that each tag considered meaningful for the HDM should be rendered.<br>Here are some examples:<br>- road surface and smoothness are rendered (eg.<br><a href="http://umap.fluv.io/en/map/hdm-first-draft_728#15/18.6665/-72.3048" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">http://umap.fluv.io/en/map/hdm-first-draft_728#15/18.6665/-72.3048</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>where<br>a piece of the primary road is unpaved)<br>- water well are rendered (eg.<br><a href="http://umap.fluv.io/en/map/hdm-first-draft_728#19/19.67901/-72.12665" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">http://umap.fluv.io/en/map/hdm-first-draft_728#19/19.67901/-72.12665</a>,<br>icons work in progress ;) )<br>- street lamps are rendered (same link)<br>- The craft tags are rendered<br>(<a href="http://umap.fluv.io/en/map/hdm-first-draft_728#19/19.67048/-72.12274" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">http://umap.fluv.io/en/map/hdm-first-draft_728#19/19.67048/-72.12274</a>)<br>- NGOs have their icons, for example:<br><a href="http://umap.fluv.io/en/map/hdm-first-draft_728#19/19.75957/-72.20532" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">http://umap.fluv.io/en/map/hdm-first-draft_728#19/19.75957/-72.20532</a><br>Also:<br>- terrain data is included (will be colorized:<br><a href="http://umap.fluv.io/en/map/hdm-first-draft_728#11/19.5944/-72.1108" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">http://umap.fluv.io/en/map/hdm-first-draft_728#11/19.5944/-72.1108</a>)<br>- zoom until 20 is allowed: the goal is to enable mapping in very<br>detailed instances. For example, camps (fire hydrants are already<br>rendered:<br><a href="http://umap.fluv.io/en/map/hdm-first-draft_728#20/19.76066/-72.20188" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">http://umap.fluv.io/en/map/hdm-first-draft_728#20/19.76066/-72.20188</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>)<o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br>Very awesome indeed! I think it is a very important step for HOT to have the entered data visible on a map. It is necessary to both provide feedback to the editors as well as to have a simple and tangible result to communicate to people outside of the project.<br><br>Something I'm missing is a map key. It's hard to infer the actual state of a road from its color on the map, without guidance.<br><br><br>Keep up the amazing work :-)<br><br><br><br>Regards, David<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>HOT mailing list<br><a href="mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">HOT@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot</a><o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>HOT mailing list<br><a href="mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">HOT@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot</a><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>