<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, linéale;font-size:10pt">I agrre with raphael:<br><br>typhoon:damage=limited<br clear="none">typhoon:damage=moderate<br clear="none">typhoon:damage=extensive<br><br>cheers<br><div><span><br></span></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, linéale; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, linéale; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> Le mardi 19 novembre 2013 5h04, Stéphane Henriod <s@henriod.info> a écrit :<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv8512374316"><div><div dir="ltr">+1 for typhoon_Haiyan:damage<br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv8512374316gmail_extra"><br
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<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv8512374316yqt0797934386" id="yiv8512374316yqtfd57756"><div class="yiv8512374316gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Rafael Avila Coya <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ravilacoya@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ravilacoya@gmail.com">ravilacoya@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv8512374316gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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Hi,<br clear="none">
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typhoon_2013:damage=xxx could improve the situation, but you would<br clear="none">
still have tag garbage if you don't update/delete those tags after the<br clear="none">
buildings are repaired.<br clear="none">
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In any case, typhoon_2013:damage could be deleted after a certain time<br clear="none">
with a bot.<br clear="none">
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I would suggest typhoon_Haiyan:damage instead, as there can be more<br clear="none">
than one typhoon in 2013, though.<br clear="none">
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Cheers,<br clear="none">
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Rafael.<br clear="none">
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On 19/11/13 10:06, Stéphane Henriod wrote:<br clear="none">
> Hi<br clear="none">
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> the only concern I have with<br clear="none">
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> typhoon:damage=limited typhoon:damage=moderate<br clear="none">
> typhoon:damage=extensive<br clear="none">
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> is the tracking over time: how will we deal with this tag when the<br clear="none">
> next typhoon hits? We cannot assume that every single building will<br clear="none">
> be updated once rebuilt (typhoon:damage=none, e.g.). So we might<br clear="none">
> end up with an inconsistent database over time...<br clear="none">
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> what about something in the line of typhoon_2013:damage=xxx ?<br clear="none">
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> Cheers<br clear="none">
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> Stéphane<br clear="none">
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> -- "Le mot progrès n'aura aucun sens tant qu'il y aura des enfants<br clear="none">
> malheureux" -- Albert Einstein<br clear="none">
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> "A journey does not need reasons. Before long, it proves to be<br clear="none">
> reason enough in itself. One thinks that one is going to make a<br clear="none">
> journey, yet soon it is the journey that makes or unmakes you." --<br clear="none">
> Nicolas Bouvier<br clear="none">
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> Photos de voyages, photos de montagne: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.henriod.info/">http://www.henriod.info</a><br clear="none">
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> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Rafael Avila Coya<br clear="none">
> <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ravilacoya@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ravilacoya@gmail.com">ravilacoya@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ravilacoya@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ravilacoya@gmail.com">ravilacoya@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br clear="none">
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> Hi,<br clear="none">
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> I was merging some of the impassable roads into OSM yesterday.<br clear="none">
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> The first atribute is not useless; it's just an abbreviation of<br clear="none">
> the second.<br clear="none">
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> I was tagging "source=US NGA", but your suggestion it's ok too. I<br clear="none">
> could just change it, no problem.<br clear="none">
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> For the damage intensity, why not to use the typhoon:damage one,<br clear="none">
> that we already have? Like this:<br clear="none">
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> typhoon:damage=limited typhoon:damage=moderate<br clear="none">
> typhoon:damage=extensive<br clear="none">
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> Cheers,<br clear="none">
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> Rafael.<br clear="none">
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> On 19/11/13 04:13, Bruno Remy wrote:<br clear="none">
>> Hi,<br clear="none">
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>> NGA Files contains some attributs that we do not use in OSM<br clear="none">
>> Database. Exemple: "Damage_"="LD" "Damage_Ext"="LIMITED" or<br clear="none">
>> "MODERATE" "Production"="11/17/2013"<br clear="none">
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>> The first one is useless, so we can ignore it for importation.<br clear="none">
>> The third one can be changed to " source"="NGA Damage assessment<br clear="none">
>> report-11/17/2013"<br clear="none">
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>> But the 'Damage_Ext' provides some accurate information about<br clear="none">
>> the intensity of damage (limited/moderate/extensive) and should<br clear="none">
>> be strategic to give some priority for humanitarian help<br clear="none">
>> (healthcare) or reconstruction help (ingenneers, construction,<br clear="none">
>> etc...)<br clear="none">
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>> So : should we keep or not these tags, and if so, witch tags<br clear="none">
>> should be appropriate?<br clear="none">
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>> Suggestion : "NGA:damage_intensity"="limited"<br clear="none">
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>> Regards,<br clear="none">
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>> Bruno<br clear="none">
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>> Le lundi 18 novembre 2013 12h08, Vivien Deparday<br clear="none">
>> <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vivien.deparday@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vivien.deparday@gmail.com">vivien.deparday@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vivien.deparday@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vivien.deparday@gmail.com">vivien.deparday@gmail.com</a>>> a<br clear="none">
> écrit : Hi all, a bit of feedback on<br clear="none">
>> this instruction for road damage assessment that are on the<br clear="none">
>> tasks, I think they could be clarified a bit:<br clear="none">
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>> - while reviewing a post disaster task (350), I have found a<br clear="none">
>> road duplicate that had been created just to mark the damage on<br clear="none">
>> it instead of marking the existing pre-disaster road. This is<br clear="none">
>> currently not very clear in the workflow description, it says<br clear="none">
>> 'Please make a segment covering the damages and mark it' . The<br clear="none">
>> 'make' could mean create a new road or it could mean split the<br clear="none">
>> existing one to mark only the affected part of the roads. I<br clear="none">
>> suppose it is the latter but it could be made a bit clearer like<br clear="none">
>> it is written in capital for the buildings.<br clear="none">
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>> - Also, it is not very clear how the road obstacle and the<br clear="none">
>> impassable section should be marked and related to each other.<br clear="none">
>> Do you mark the whole road as impassable from one road block to<br clear="none">
>> the other but then you do really need to mark the road blocks<br clear="none">
>> themselves? I suppose it would still be useful to mark them if<br clear="none">
>> they are road blocks that are in the middle of an impassable<br clear="none">
>> section because then one can know how many debris have to be<br clear="none">
>> removed. If there is a section of road between two road blocks<br clear="none">
>> that had no debris, should it be marked passable or impassable<br clear="none">
>> (since you cannot get to it), etc...? It seems like all the road<br clear="none">
>> blocks should be added to the existing roads as new nodes<br clear="none">
>> belonging to the road and marked as barrier, and also each<br clear="none">
>> segment between the road blocks should be marked as impassable?<br clear="none">
>> It seems like that shouldn't mess the database? Anyone with more<br clear="none">
>> experience on that?<br clear="none">
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>> Once there is agreement, it should be described clearly on the<br clear="none">
>> workflow tab, maybe with a link to a wikipage with more details.<br clear="none">
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>> I just had a look at the shapefile from NGA and they are only<br clear="none">
>> road segment marked as impassable.<br clear="none">
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>> Cheers,<br clear="none">
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>> Vivien GFDRR Labs<br clear="none">
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>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Pierre Béland<br clear="none">
>> <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:pierzenh@yahoo.fr" target="_blank" href="mailto:pierzenh@yahoo.fr">pierzenh@yahoo.fr</a><br clear="none">
> <mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:pierzenh@yahoo.fr" target="_blank" href="mailto:pierzenh@yahoo.fr">pierzenh@yahoo.fr</a>><br clear="none">
>> <mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:pierzenh@yahoo.fr" target="_blank" href="mailto:pierzenh@yahoo.fr">pierzenh@yahoo.fr</a> <mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:pierzenh@yahoo.fr" target="_blank" href="mailto:pierzenh@yahoo.fr">pierzenh@yahoo.fr</a>>>> wrote:<br clear="none">
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>> Hi all,<br clear="none">
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>> The tags to be used for tagging roads are described in the<br clear="none">
>> Workflow panel of Task Manager job<br clear="none">
>> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/350">http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/350</a><br clear="none">
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>> If any questions, dont hesitate to contact us or come discuss on<br clear="none">
>> the #HOT Irc.<br clear="none">
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>> Thanks to all,<br clear="none">
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>> Pierre<br clear="none">
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