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On 20/12/2013 01:44, Nick Allen wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I'm not sure. You could well be
right about 'tarps', & I think in some places materials such
as corrugated iron sheets have been reused. What was once
extensive tree cover obscuring buildings is now fairly open
ground, so in some cases the outline has changed purely because
we can now see the whole structure.<br>
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On 20/12/13 01:33, Jonathan wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks Nick, that was a helpful
kickstart. The one query I still have is are all the blue
structures tents? As you say, most have appeared where there
was once a building and in some cases they are alongside.
I've not tagged any as tents as most seem to be in place of a
building or as well as a building so I wonder wether they are
"tarps" that have been draped over ruins or damage? So I've
simply marked the building as damaged.<br>
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On 20/12/2013 00:18, Nick Allen wrote:<br>
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Having just completed one of the squares for this task, a
few notes which may help (It's not easy, so be prepared to
take your time & do your best);<br>
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If using JOSM, load not only the imagery linked to the task,
but also Bing or whatever imagery was first used. By hiding
the different layers you can then compare the before (Bing?)
& after imagery to see how the building has changed.<br>
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Alignment - slightly different to the existing tracing. As
usual no gps traces available, but always worth trying. <br>
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History - Be prepared to look at the history of buildings -
on my square someone had been creating new buildings using
the post disaster imagery 12 hours before I started - they
were only tagged as building=yes, so it took me a few
minutes of investigation to work out what had been done
(Ctrl+h in JOSM will bring up the history of a selected node
or way). <br>
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Tents - I'm fairly certain that at least two of the
buildings added 12 hours ago are actually tents - they are
on the site of old buildings or nearby, but are a completely
different outline. I've done a search on the wiki, but
nobody seems to have been mentioning tagging them before -
I've tagged mine 'building=tent' until someone comes up with
a better scheme.<br>
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On 19/12/13 03:06, Banick, Robert wrote:<br>
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<div>Greetings from Manila. </div>
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<div>As efforts to alleviate the damages from Typhoon
Haiyan / Yolanda in the Philippines shift from
response to recovery the need for detailed, precise
information about damages and recovery rates has
become more pressing. Agencies are still investing
lots in mass-distribution style emergency shelter
relief but are already looking at the next stage of
"supporting self-recovery" activities and the eventual
move towards permanent shelter solutions. </div>
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<div>One of the more affected municipalities in Haiyan's
path is Carles, on the Northeastern tip of Panay
Island. Much like the islands of neighboring
municipality Estancia to the south, the exposed
islands of Carles and the buildings along its shores
were hit hard by the typhoon. Survivors are doing an
inspiring job of putting their lives in order and
moving on but the need for assistance and support is
still real. We've create a task to support this
process at: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div>To support that assistance process we'd like to
assess the damages at a building-by-building level.
Our hope is to better target assistance from aid
agencies in the area, track reconstruction progress at
a building level and verify the accuracy of these
assessments through OSM for future work.</div>
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<div>Thanks to the continued generosity of the U.S.
State Department, we've been able to procure
post-disaster imagery for the municipality of Carles
on the northeast tip of Panay Island. Please download
the imagery into your editing software of choice and
be sure to insert the necessary tags to recognize the
NextView license's part in the data so created.</div>
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<div>Many thanks to all of you for your contributions
and continued support. I cannot speak enough to how
well received OSM is by government, NGOs and companies
alike here. This operation represents a huge leap
forward in terms of the credibility and recognition of
OSM for disaster response purposes.</div>
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