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Reading this about the splitting of tasks made me think:<br>
In the future, we/a programmer could add a "join back
together"-button<br>
if someone accidentially split a task in too tiny bits?<br>
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But I'm just brainstorming here...<br>
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Theodin<br>
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Am 03.02.2014 19:31, schrieb Pierre Béland:<br>
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Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt">This version looks
great and yes we should move on to implement it.<br>
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I am in general quite satisfied of the Task Manager and we have
already discussed of some enhancements that could make it even
more powerful. <br>
<br>
Two points in this version that could proabably be modified to
give more control to the coordinators and experienced mappers
over the control of the jobs. From my experience coordinating
various Activations with the Tasking Manager, I see two elements
in particular where inexperienced people cause problems in
managing the Task manager job. We have already tried to find
solutions for these. From the feedback using these
functionalities, I think that we will continue to progress to a
more robust Task Manager.<br>
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1. Validation<br>
I am also of the opinion that we should rethink this function.
There are other ways to validate, and letting anybody validate
do not assure a good validation process. Plus there is the
Invalidate button. The problem we are faced with, with the
Validation function is that we cannot Invalidate the Validation.
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If we keep the Validation step, we could assure that once the
task status has moved to Validated, mappers do still have access
to this task<br>
a. to see info for this task in JOSM<br>
b. To invalidate the task if this is incomplete. This way if an
inexperience mapper click successively on a task, we are still
able to Invalidate the task<br>
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2. Split function<br>
I suspect that new mappers do not know well sometime where to
click and sometimes endup dividing tasks in tiny, tiny ones that
are not easily manageable. A more descriptive button for Split
plus a bubble note describing the Split function, would assure a
better interaction with the software.<br>
<br>
Other then that, I have to say that the Task Manger is a great
tool for mapping. The experience in november with the
Philippines Activation shows our capacity to escalate and
coordinate well with this tool. assure that we cover
systematically large zones with various workfows. We have
mapped two our three times more then for the Haiti Earthquake in
2010.<br>
<br>
A great thank Pierre for this and I hope that we will have the
opportunity in 2014 to continue to improve this excellent tool.<br>
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Maron <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mikel_maron@yahoo.com"><mikel_maron@yahoo.com></a><br>
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Lundi 3 février 2014 8h46<br>
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Re: [HOT] Tech WG - tasking manager - workflow branch<br>
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I'm clear, you're talking about merging <a
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validation, I agree it needs a rethink. There is
definitely a need for validation in some form. But
I'd hesitate to remove functionality, the current
validation without replacing it with something
else. I suggest we keep it for now, and move on
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On Sunday, February 2, 2014 1:48 PM,
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<div>It's been a while now that I've
started working on a "workflow"
branch (more than a year ago). The
main purpose of this development
was to improve the user experience
by simplifying the interface a
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<div>This branch is the one used for
the instance working at <a
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I'm now confident and I think that
it's ready. I would now like to
merge the work into the master
branch and update the main
instance. It will also eventually
allow us to remove this second
instance. I will do my best to
retrieve the data as well.</div>
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<div>For those who don't know yet,
in addition to user interface
modification, the main enhancement
is deep linking ie. links to tasks
in a read only mode. This allow
users to share a link to the task
they are working on for example.</div>
<div>I also got rid of the
"validation" process because it
has been the source of problems
recently. Let's rethink this
feature if we really need it.
People still can invalidate tasks
though.</div>
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<div>If no one is fiercely against
i, I'll do the merge later this
week.</div>
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<div>This will help me give an
answer to Mikel and others who
were asking me how much work is
left to get v1 functionnalities in
v2.</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
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