<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Thanks Jaakko. I had forgotten about that hackpad. Given that it contains a lot of other comments besides bylaws issues, can we move the relevant pieces into the wiki? </span><a href="https://hackpad.com/HOT-Bylaws-Amendments-D5EU34qgHYu" style="font-size: 10pt;">https://hackpad.com/HOT-Bylaws-Amendments-D5EU34qgHYu</a></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.63636302947998px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.63636302947998px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style:
normal;"><span>-Mikel</span></div><div></div><div> </div><div>* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron</div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Friday, February 14, 2014 11:50 AM, Jaakko Helleranta.com <jaakko@helleranta.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv9227818711"><div><div dir="ltr">We definitely need to make this all work together. Various smaller and larger issues need to be adjusted in the bylaws. Code needs to be referred to in them (IMO). And we can't
just tackle one thing at a time. <div>
I don't mind which the place is (wiki or Hackpad). Hackpad is more conversational but it's not open source.</div><div>But let's this thing sorted out this year.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>For the board size: The various organizations I've been involved with have had both ways without problems: fixed board size and varying. I think in the case of the varying size it's been usually an item on the annual meeting's list to (officially) decide on the board size that year albeit it's been a custom to go with the size that the board is "suggesting". Sometimes this might be also left for a dedicated elections committee to suggest for the annual meeting. And sometimes there's just been a custom to create a consensus about the board size in "unofficial discussions".</div>
<div>What ever it is it might be good to have a policy approved by the voting members. I don't see why we couldn't decide on such policy/custom as a simple decision point on the annual meeting list.</div><div><br clear="none">
</div><div>Cheers,</div><div>-Jaakko</div></div><div class="yiv9227818711gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>--</div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jaakko@helleranta.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jaakko@helleranta.com" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204); font-family: arial; font-size: small;">jaakko@helleranta.com</a><span style="font-family: arial; font-size: small;"> * Skype: jhelleranta * Mobile: </span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204); font-family: arial; font-size: small;" href="">+505-8845-3391</a><span style="font-family: arial; font-size: small;"> (Nicaragua) * Voice(mail) / SMS / What's app: +1-202-730-9778 * </span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://about.me/jaakkoh" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204); font-family: arial; font-size: small;">http://about.me/jaakkoh</a><br clear="none">
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<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv9227818711gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Russell Deffner <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:russell.deffner@hotosm.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:russell.deffner@hotosm.org">russell.deffner@hotosm.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv9227818711gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="yiv9227818711yqt2947144938" id="yiv9227818711yqt98007"><div lang="EN-US"><div><div class="yiv9227818711MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Mikel, we had previously been working here: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://hackpad.com/HOT-Bylaws-Amendments-D5EU34qgHYu">https://hackpad.com/HOT-Bylaws-Amendments-D5EU34qgHYu</a> - lots of good stuff on these topics that was consolidated from all our other google docs, etc.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv9227818711MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="yiv9227818711MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">If you’d like help moving everything to the wiki, we can do that; but it may be easier to continue using the hackpad.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv9227818711MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="yiv9227818711MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">=Russ<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv9227818711MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;">
<div class="yiv9227818711MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> Mikel Maron [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:mikel_maron@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:mikel_maron@yahoo.com">mikel_maron@yahoo.com</a>] <br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 14, 2014 9:01 AM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Severin Menard; <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org">hot@openstreetmap.org</a></span></div><div class="yiv9227818711"><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [HOT] Nominations for HOT Chair of the voting members and Board are open<u></u><u></u></div>
</div></div><div class="yiv9227818711MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div><div class="yiv9227818711MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;">> Thanks for pointing out these unclear aspects in the bylaws, would be good to modify them so that there is no confusion. </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"><u></u><u></u></span></div>
</div><div><div class="yiv9227818711h5"><div><div class="yiv9227818711MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv9227818711MsoNormal" style="background:white;">
<span style="font-size:9.5pt;">Yes, definitely, one of the top priorities for this year will be to address the gaps in the bylaws, to clarify and make them more in line for the kind of organization we wish HOT to be. The Membership Code process and other discussions have brought many items to the surface.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"><u></u><u></u></span></div>
</div><div><div class="yiv9227818711MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv9227818711MsoNormal" style="background:white;">
<span style="font-size:9.5pt;">As a start, let's begin by documenting issues in the Bylaws. I've started this wiki page, with some description, and added a single starting issue as a template. Please contribute here!</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"><u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<span style="font-size:9.5pt;"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/U.S._Bylaws/2014_Bylaws_Review">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/U.S._Bylaws/2014_Bylaws_Review</a></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"><u></u><u></u></span></div>
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</div><div><div class="yiv9227818711MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;">Cheers</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"><u></u><u></u></span></div>
</div><div><div class="yiv9227818711MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;">Mikel</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"><u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;">* Mikel Maron * <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="">+14152835207</a> @mikel s:mikelmaron<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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