<div dir="ltr">I wanted to point out the paper <i>Consequences, risks and side-effects of the license module "non-commercial use only - NC"</i>(1). Personally I've never thought NC licenses make sense for most uses. Though this white paper points out that often what people/organizations are actually trying to avoid/prevent is not helped by NC licensing.<div>
<br></div><div>Jaakko to bring up the eduction example. There is question regarding charging tuition for a class, is that still non-commercial? <br><br><br>(1) <a href="http://openglam.org/files/2013/01/iRights_CC-NC_Guide_English.pdf">http://openglam.org/files/2013/01/iRights_CC-NC_Guide_English.pdf</a></div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Jaakko Helleranta.com <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jaakko@helleranta.com" target="_blank">jaakko@helleranta.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>It's clear that any data that anyone desires to add to OSM must be available with a license that doesn't restrict commercial use. That's not where the point is here.</div>
<div><br></div><div>But what's interesting in the German court ruling -- which seems to me to be for example stricter (to my understanding) than the Creative Commons' (the organization's) interpretation of the NC clause of the CC licenses -- is that it would indeed seem to rule (practically?) all but personal use out of the appropriate use of content with non-commercial clause.</div>
<div><br></div><div>And this is in conflict with so many "established" uses of the NC clause (including humanitarian and other NGOs and a huge range of educational uses, etc, etc) that it will be interesting to see if this has an impact to those -- and if/when we'll see more legal cases in this field?</div>
<div><br></div><div>As a possible positive outcome of this (for OSM) it could happen that some of the established NC-users might re-evaluate their licene and NC clauses might loose popularity. Since the NC clause also requires sharing alike (for the NC clause to not get lost) this could mean more potential data for OSM as well as more potential (integrated) uses for OSM data (as taking out the NC would in principle make the licenses "attribution--share-alike" what OdBL is at heart..).</div>
<div><br></div><div>-Jaakko</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>--</div><div><a href="mailto:jaakko@helleranta.com" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:arial;font-size:small" target="_blank">jaakko@helleranta.com</a><span style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"> * Skype: jhelleranta * Mobile: </span><a value="+50588453391" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:arial;font-size:small">+505-8845-3391</a><span style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"> (Nicaragua) * Voice(mail) / SMS / What's app: <a href="tel:%2B1-202-730-9778" value="+12027309778" target="_blank">+1-202-730-9778</a> * </span><a href="http://about.me/jaakkoh" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:arial;font-size:small" target="_blank">http://about.me/jaakkoh</a><br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="">On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Peter Wendorff <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wendorff@uni-paderborn.de" target="_blank">wendorff@uni-paderborn.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div><div><div class="h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi,<br>
even if it would not be restricted to personal use, any data that is put<br>
to OSM has to be under a license that allows commercial use, too.<br>
<br>
HOT has a special purpose, but as long as it's data is living in OSM,<br>
that data may be used for commercial purposes as well and therefore data<br>
sources used by the HOT members have to be valid under the OSM umbrella<br>
as well which contains nearly unlimited commercial use as well.<br>
<br>
IMHO - although I'm not a lawyer - the court decision you refer to is<br>
out of scope here, even a very liberal view of "non-commercial" is too<br>
restrictive for OSM.<br>
<br>
regards<br>
Peter<br>
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Am 08.04.2014 19:54, schrieb Kate Chapman:<br>
<div><div>> It was mentioned earlier about how some groups, especially<br>
> humanitarian groups often choose to use non-commercial licenses on<br>
> their data. This of course causing an incompatibility with OSM.<br>
><br>
> There recently was a court ruling in Germany that decided that<br>
> Non-Commercial is only for personal use(1). This would mean that NC<br>
> licenses are not appropriate for humanitarian data. It will be<br>
> interesting to see if there are further court rulings.<br>
><br>
> -Kate<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140326/11405526695/german-court-says-creative-commons-non-commercial-licenses-must-be-purely-personal-use.shtml" target="_blank">https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140326/11405526695/german-court-says-creative-commons-non-commercial-licenses-must-be-purely-personal-use.shtml</a><br>
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