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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Hi everybody,<br><br>I have contributed to HOT for a few months now and I love this project! I have followed this list closely, but this is actually my first post here. <br><br>I would strongly suggest that HOT focus on using <a href="https://translatewiki.net/">Translatewiki.net</a> as its translation platform, instead of Transifex. Translatewiki.net is <a href="https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:OpenStreetMap">already used by OSM</a> and have a very active translation community. This community already know and use the vocabulary, something that would increase consistency of the translations. <br><br>Also, Wikimedia Sverige will launch a large project this year where we will focus on improving documentation to make Translatewiki.net even easier to use, creating and adding Open Badges for the project etc. <br><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3"><br></font><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3">John</font><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3"><br></font><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3">
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Please consider </font><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3"><a href="https://donera.wikimedia.se/node/6" target="_blank">becoming a member</a></font><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3"> of Wikimedia Sverige!</font><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3"> We need your support.<br></font><br><br><div>> From: hot-request@openstreetmap.org<br>> Subject: HOT Digest, Vol 51, Issue 3<br>> To: hot@openstreetmap.org<br>> Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 00:52:33 +0000<br>> <br>> Send HOT mailing list submissions to<br>> hot@openstreetmap.org<br>> <br>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot<br>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br>> hot-request@openstreetmap.org<br>> <br>> You can reach the person managing the list at<br>> hot-owner@openstreetmap.org<br>> <br>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>> than "Re: Contents of HOT digest..."<br>> <br>> <br>> Today's Topics:<br>> <br>> 1. Re: Road tracing in North Nigeria and eHealth Africa data<br>> imports (Rafael Avila Coya)<br>> 2. Transifex translation service for HOT projects (Dra?en Odoba?i?)<br>> 3. Re: Doodle for First Meeting of Communications Working Group<br>> (Kate Chapman)<br>> 4. Re: Transifex translation service for HOT projects<br>> (Severin Menard)<br>> 5. Activation Working Group (Severin Menard)<br>> <br>> <br>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 1<br>> Date: Thu, 01 May 2014 13:11:47 +0100<br>> From: Rafael Avila Coya <ravilacoya@gmail.com><br>> To: Pierre B?land <pierzenh@yahoo.fr><br>> Cc: "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org><br>> Subject: Re: [HOT] Road tracing in North Nigeria and eHealth Africa<br>> data imports<br>> Message-ID: <53623A03.10103@gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>> <br>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>> Hash: SHA1<br>> <br>> Hi, Pierre:<br>> <br>> Thank you for sharing your comments.<br>> <br>> We are actually importing the boundaries at the ward level (see for<br>> example this area of Jigawa and Yobe states that have already their<br>> inner boundaries imported to the OSM database:<br>> http://osm.org/go/wSyuEK4-- ) following the corresponding import wiki:<br>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_Nigeria_eHealth_Africa_Boundaries<br>> .<br>> <br>> About the tagging, we decided to use place=district and addr:district<br>> for LGA's (admin_level 6) and place=municipality and addr:municipality<br>> for the wards (admin_level 8) for consistency with worldwide tagging.<br>> <br>> addr:distric redirects to this wikipedia page:<br>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District . We found that definition quite<br>> matching what an LGA is in Nigeria. And wards are, for their size, and<br>> discussing with people that have travelled through all these states<br>> for the last 2 years, quite equivalent to what we know as municipality<br>> in European countries.<br>> <br>> The other alternative would be to use place=lga plus addr:lga and<br>> place=ward plus addr:ward, but 'lga' is not a documented (and probably<br>> not used at all) tag, and ward looks to be meant for areas inside a<br>> metropolitan area.<br>> <br>> We haven't still not used those place and addr: tags so far, and I<br>> wonder if any has used them for address tagging in Nigeria, so any<br>> comments about this (and anything else) are very welcome.<br>> <br>> Cheers,<br>> <br>> Rafael.<br>> <br>> On 01/05/14 07:24, Pierre B?land wrote:<br>> > Hi Rafael,<br>> > <br>> > This is awesome all of this. You are doing a great job with the<br>> > highway classification.<br>> > <br>> > In the Hackpad, the territorial division is presented with States<br>> > LGA's and Wards levels. Boundary limits could be easily add for<br>> > each if you have the limits. But I dont understand the proposition<br>> > to use new values Places tag classification (ie. place=district and<br>> > municipality).<br>> > <br>> > Pierre<br>> > <br>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> ><br>> > <br>> *De :* Rafael Avila Coya <ravilacoya@gmail.com><br>> > *? :* "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org> *Envoy? le :*<br>> > Lundi 28 avril 2014 14h54 *Objet :* [HOT] Road tracing in North<br>> > Nigeria and eHealth Africa data imports<br>> > <br>> > Hi all:<br>> > <br>> > As you may remember from a thread about a month ago, there is a<br>> > NGO, eHealth Africa ( http://ehealthafrica.org<br>> > <http://ehealthafrica.org/>), that asked for a job to be created in<br>> > the Task Manager for tracing the roads of Kano state in N Nigeria (<br>> > http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/474 <http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/474>),<br>> > to help vaccination teams trying to eradicate the polio in 10<br>> > states of N Nigeria. As the job wasn't being done in a proper way,<br>> > specially road tagging, I sent them some emails telling they had to<br>> > both get some training and have a consistent tagging reference<br>> > (find here the road proposal I made, and that was said to be fine<br>> > by the people interested in mapping Nigeria: <br>> > https://hackpad.com/Proposal-of-road-tagging-system-for-Nigeria-5YvMa3u2bqE<br>> ><br>> > <br>> , that we are already using as reference). I volunteered to come to<br>> > help with that, and ended up being hired for a month. I am<br>> > therefore in Kano, Nigeria, since two weeks ago.<br>> > <br>> > The road tracing is in itself a huge and very interesting job, and <br>> > they are planning to follow that job with all northern states of <br>> > Nigeria. But as I landed here, I discovered that eHealth Africa has<br>> > a huge and awesome set of data, with millions of GPS points, lots<br>> > of well traced residential areas (more than 2,400 for Kano state<br>> > only), all wards, LGA's and state boundaries for those 10 states<br>> > plus all LGA's and state boundaries for the rest of Nigeria, more<br>> > than 100,000 nodes with place names, location of hamlets, health<br>> > facilities, schools, water facilities, mosques, market places,<br>> > etc.<br>> > <br>> > All that data (except for the boundaries of the states not included<br>> > in the 10-North-states-list), has been gathered in the field, using<br>> > lots of GPS-enabled devices, by eHealth teams of around 60 people<br>> > during the last 2 years, and they gave us full permission to import<br>> > all that data to OSM (I have with me the HOT document of<br>> > authorisation). I've been assessing all that data to see what could<br>> > be imported to the OSM database and how, and wrote a hackpad about<br>> > it: https://hackpad.com/eHealth-Data-Import-hKeQZhVqQeR<br>> > <br>> > If anyone wants to test that data, just let me know and I give you<br>> > the link to it.<br>> > <br>> > Any comments, help or ideas are very welcome.<br>> > <br>> > Cheers,<br>> > <br>> > Rafael.<br>> > <br>> > _______________________________________________ HOT mailing list <br>> > HOT@openstreetmap.org <mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org> <br>> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot<br>> > <br>> <br>> - -- <br>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/ravilacoya<br>> <br>> - --------------------------------<br>> <br>> Por favor, non me env?e documentos con extensi?ns .doc, .docx, .xls,<br>> .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, a?nda podendoo facer, non os abro.<br>> <br>> Atendendo ? lexislaci?n vixente, empregue formatos est?ndares e abertos.<br>> <br>> http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument#Tipos_de_ficheros<br>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)<br>> Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/<br>> <br>> iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTYjnyAAoJEB3niTly2pPQ4BAP/jP1dKPVbvGaHg3d7886Plu4<br>> qHRdc+JkqS3vDLyWHDIbxzULXAJA45aNYexWSreruAWgSsa9CrPlgdXjADjz4Qf1<br>> 5z1poFoMnExC5kkaQ/ablXnQ0URkkwFlVlZzjROvulTEPpXDl9dTVpFxi8y16GSN<br>> tyHOR8Xtg7WA8lkNDGNigKG3pcIYxHswI6wbYqNMUt5PuHgIyhO1Uxgx/BczSHLG<br>> qPhEjM7dlRJVcGY02+vWgi+m6f70W4UmF/s9OHC6NJRbcR9D3Z0zwkydC/sm0N5F<br>> HEbyKnuN//oKio4Tqj0D2ChRR+bwft+8NTwaBY4TK2V8QVbvQh7mWs6MoRVY9/yu<br>> P7QFdHu5lKX7IvCdZY7upPaBKR6ojukzWmIU4WndXzjSfdHoNnzYO6IumNK6ieiN<br>> QyWNwkhbC3cTMjIp6Te+vNhHRG3PZy7jfthgRpbK13YPyAm3dzFbwlW+jNud5zcW<br>> /HApul94gDbaxJE4YYErSmBEPrxRmV5/4yd5gYEaemV/1bYVG64VAntEhsGymhfd<br>> GT0LWmLmloZt72+h0Tj2h78pPsn6GEnpv3c1w1m8cdmnG+74rJGDHPK/yvUtqIG+<br>> sdmv15eiHu+MvuY7gH2ZQBSAj182llB1FdNqvx7iGkbvNFqsh865VSYVgfY/rur9<br>> CfVLWeyXZOzBWhNCPlLs<br>> =9ink<br>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 2<br>> Date: Thu, 01 May 2014 16:35:38 +0200<br>> From: Dra?en Odoba?i? <dodobas@geoinfo.geof.hr><br>> To: "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org><br>> Subject: [HOT] Transifex translation service for HOT projects<br>> Message-ID: <53625BBA.3010806@geoinfo.geof.hr><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br>> <br>> Hi all,<br>> <br>> we are going to try to use Transifex localization service to maintain and<br>> improve HOT project localization. Transifex is essentially a paid service,<br>> however it's free for open-source projects. There is also an open-source code<br>> repository https://github.com/transifex/<br>> <br>> Transifex service has an command line utility which enables, almost unattended,<br>> localizations integration. The drawback is that we should let the CLI utility to<br>> handle all translations, making Transifex the only source of translations. I'm<br>> not sure how are we going to handle translation file merging, and how does<br>> Transifex work when we remove some strings/terms from the initial source files<br>> (English).<br>> <br>> At the moment, I've only configured hot-export project and it's quite easy to<br>> add new languages. https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/hot-export/<br>> <br>> I've also noticed that some of strings/terms are not really used, so we probably<br>> should do some spring cleaning.<br>> <br>> Dra?en<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 3<br>> Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 11:18:31 -0400<br>> From: Kate Chapman <kate@maploser.com><br>> To: hot <hot@openstreetmap.org><br>> Subject: Re: [HOT] Doodle for First Meeting of Communications Working<br>> Group<br>> Message-ID:<br>> <CAGn7mOogDCpa9MXstXJ64m6H0+-tJmJvi9DXNjdev25PnWVdVA@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>> <br>> Hi All,<br>> <br>> Just a reminder if you are interested in being a member of this group<br>> please note your availability on the Doodle. I'd like to announce the<br>> meeting time at the end of the day tomorrow.<br>> <br>> http://doodle.com/3545epmy63x72gvk<br>> <br>> -Kate<br>> <br>> <br>> On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Kate Chapman <kate@maploser.com> wrote:<br>> <br>> > Hi All,<br>> ><br>> > As announced last week HOT is reactivating the working groups(1), some<br>> > have been quiet for a while and some have not previously existed. I've<br>> > created a Doodle to start of the Communications working group(2). At the<br>> > first meeting we will begin the Terms of Reference for the working group<br>> > and decide on a meeting schedule.<br>> ><br>> > Please note your interest in the Wiki and availability in the Wiki.<br>> ><br>> > Thanks,<br>> ><br>> > -Kate<br>> ><br>> > (1)<br>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/Working_groups<br>> > (2) http://doodle.com/3545epmy63x72gvk<br>> ><br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20140501/0b255179/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 4<br>> Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 23:26:11 +0200<br>> From: Severin Menard <severin.menard@gmail.com><br>> To: Dra?en Odoba?i? <dodobas@geoinfo.geof.hr><br>> Cc: "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org><br>> Subject: Re: [HOT] Transifex translation service for HOT projects<br>> Message-ID:<br>> <CA+y5pB+nSWYGC9g3+4sKYubeU6rX9ZaB1Tdq2EDWSkmvW34j2Q@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>> <br>> Hi Drazen,<br>> <br>> Big thanks for this: I did the translation inti French in the past and I<br>> wish at that time I could use Transifex that I already knew from the<br>> Inasafe documentation.<br>> If one day you do the same for LearnOSM, you will be my hero.<br>> <br>> Sincerely<br>> <br>> Severin<br>> Le 1 mai 2014 16:37, "Dra?en Odoba?i?" <dodobas@geoinfo.geof.hr> a ?crit :<br>> <br>> > Hi all,<br>> ><br>> > we are going to try to use Transifex localization service to maintain and<br>> > improve HOT project localization. Transifex is essentially a paid service,<br>> > however it's free for open-source projects. There is also an open-source<br>> > code<br>> > repository https://github.com/transifex/<br>> ><br>> > Transifex service has an command line utility which enables, almost<br>> > unattended,<br>> > localizations integration. The drawback is that we should let the CLI<br>> > utility to<br>> > handle all translations, making Transifex the only source of translations.<br>> > I'm<br>> > not sure how are we going to handle translation file merging, and how does<br>> > Transifex work when we remove some strings/terms from the initial source<br>> > files<br>> > (English).<br>> ><br>> > At the moment, I've only configured hot-export project and it's quite easy<br>> > to<br>> > add new languages. https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/hot-export/<br>> ><br>> > I've also noticed that some of strings/terms are not really used, so we<br>> > probably<br>> > should do some spring cleaning.<br>> ><br>> > Dra?en<br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > HOT mailing list<br>> > HOT@openstreetmap.org<br>> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot<br>> ><br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20140501/ab9abed8/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 5<br>> Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 02:51:54 +0200<br>> From: Severin Menard <severin.menard@gmail.com><br>> To: "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org><br>> Subject: [HOT] Activation Working Group<br>> Message-ID:<br>> <CA+y5pBJi35CEY_JpVWtz-xfkg1DRCN5wh_FpZ6h-LpWkbzGrcA@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>> <br>> Hi all,<br>> <br>> Among the reactivated Working Groups, here is the Activation Working Group.<br>> Activations are more and more numerous and successful with a increasing<br>> number of contributors. The results are really impressive, but we can<br>> certainly do even better.<br>> <br>> As for the Communication Working group (for those interested, please fill<br>> ASAP its Doodle <http://doodle.com/3545epmy63x72gvk>) we could start with a<br>> kick-off meeting on Mumble <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mumble>,<br>> and here is a Doodle to set it:<br>> <br>> http://doodle.com/hpwkwqiregdi7b6i <http://doodle.com/hpwkwqiregdi7b6i><br>> <br>> This meeting and the ones that will follow aim at being a time to exchange<br>> on this thrilling topic, review the experiences, documents, procedures and<br>> set goals to be achieved for the next meeting. Because yes, a Working Group<br>> is a group that works, that means between the meetings. And actually, it is<br>> already happening: eg there are (more and more) people working on data<br>> validation, both through setting procedures and monitoring the freshly<br>> created data.<br>> <br>> I see 4 main topics around the Activation (but would be pleased to get<br>> other suggestions):<br>> <br>> 1. All the *activities* and *documents* involved in an Activation. In the<br>> past the Activation Working Groups mostly focused on how Activations are<br>> triggered and start, what we could review based on the last experiences.<br>> Crisis monitoring is certainly something we could add, in order not to<br>> forget crisis of smaller range or simply not highly covered by the medias.<br>> Also technical aspects like: define and prioritize AOIs (Areas of<br>> Interests) and mapping goals, track and monitor the mapping progresses, and<br>> set thin, flexible and efficient processes, tools, and wiki templates, etc.<br>> But also share and document how to maintain and even grow the contribution<br>> of the OSM contributors and communities, by communicating with them (like<br>> this Working Group will do), proposing more different kinds of tasks to do<br>> or setting joint events.<br>> <br>> 2. The *beneficiaries*, that means the humanitarian stakeholders. We need<br>> both to make them aware of the data we produce and to make the data useful<br>> and easy to use for them, taking more into account their needs, constraints<br>> and tools. I got recent feedback from the GIS officers in the UN that I<br>> will share.<br>> <br>> 3. The *data*. What needs to be mapped is quite known, but how to do it to<br>> make it as clean and efficient as possible. That links to the mapping<br>> instructions and the<br>> validation<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data>but<br>> also to how the data can be reused by the humanitarian stakeholders.<br>> There a lot of potential improvements to propose not only raw data but eg<br>> thematic dataset, what the HOT Exports can already potentially provide (in<br>> link with the Technical Working Group).<br>> <br>> 4. Last, but really not least is to *make more OSM contributors know* about<br>> the procedures and tools used to map, monitor, communicate and activate an<br>> OSM community, and expand the number of contributors in the Activations,<br>> according to everyone's interest(s). This implies connecting with local OSM<br>> communities when possible, talk with them and provide them documentation<br>> and online training. Eg in Lubumbashi after Jorieke's stay, the contact<br>> with the local OSM community has been maintained and voluntary online<br>> training has been and will be provided through Mumble. So now, they are<br>> continuing the mapping (see https://twitter.com/OSM_L) and will take an<br>> active part on the Mapping in London on Saturday. And if ever a crisis<br>> unfortunately hits Lubumbashi in the future, they will be able to trigger<br>> the worldwide OSM community<br>> <br>> <br>> Exciting, isn't it? And actually a lot of topics and sub-topics. And some<br>> are certainly missing. This is why this Activation Working Group will not<br>> need one leader but several facilitators, who, by their experience, skills<br>> and will, will make things go ahead on the topic(s) they care.<br>> <br>> Let us make things move on and activate the AWG!<br>> <br>> Sincerely,<br>> <br>> Severin<br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20140502/e55c1eec/attachment.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> HOT mailing list<br>> HOT@openstreetmap.org<br>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot<br>> <br>> <br>> End of HOT Digest, Vol 51, Issue 3<br>> **********************************<br></div> </div></body>
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