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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hello Marcos and Severin,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It has always been my working theory that a detailed OSM map, especially as Marcos explained – containing the tracks, paths, etc. that are not commonly included in other maps – directly benefits the first responders/firefighters the most. It has been my personal experience that what was looking like a river crossing to a very steep climb was alleviated only when a local resident stopped to tell us that there was a track through private property that would get us much closer to the fire from the top of the hill; just had to drive a very roundabout way to get up there. This was also after we spent a good fifteen to twenty minutes staring up the hill watching the fire burn and contemplating our plan of action using the standard paper maps provided by the county; if only at the time had I known about OSM (this was about 7-8 years ago) and the area been well mapped we could have saved quite a lot of time.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Therefor I am very happy to hear about your effort to map ahead of an actual fire Marcos. I did organize mapping efforts last summer when we had a really active (and destructive) season, you can view the documentation here: <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2013_Colorado_Wildfire_Season">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2013_Colorado_Wildfire_Season</a>; I reached out to the Incident Command team on the Black Forest fire, but was given a bit of runaround and never was able to discover if they utilized the data or not. It’s also been a general struggle in the US to get the word out and convince authorities to look at OSM as a source since there is so much ‘authoritative’ data in the public domain; but this is changing. It was my intent to create some ‘advocacy’ documentation, but alas – life got in the way and that project was dropped from the to-do list. I hope your initiative is a success and would gladly talk more about fires and OSM if you would like.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Happy Mapping,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>=Russ<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Russell Deffner<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:Russell.Deffner@hotosm.org"><span style='color:blue'>Russell.Deffner@hotosm.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://hot.openstreetmap.org/"><span style='color:blue'>http://hot.openstreetmap.org/</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Severin Menard [mailto:severin.menard@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 14, 2014 10:00 AM<br><b>To:</b> Marcos Oliveira<br><b>Cc:</b> hot@openstreetmap.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [HOT] Requesting a Task for mapping forest tracks in Portugal<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hi Marcos,<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Please keep updating us about your project and its outcomes and ask if you need any technical help. I just read the thread in which you presented your project in talk-pt and seems some contributors are afraid the area is maybe too large. Did you identify who will be the beneficiaries of a detailed OSM map? <br>I cced Russell who has a large experience regarding OSM and fires in Colorado. Russ, do you have an advice or a document regarding what to map, for who, for which medium and how to advocate for it to be used?<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Sincerely,<br><br>Severin<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:54 PM, Marcos Oliveira <<a href="mailto:marcosoliveira.2405@gmail.com" target="_blank">marcosoliveira.2405@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you for all the help, Andrew and Rafael!<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Rafael, that's exactly what I'm planning to do. I'll keep in contact with you personally to discuss the various minutiae of the project as not to spam the main mailing list.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>2014-07-07 18:29 GMT+01:00 Andrew Buck <<a href="mailto:andrew.r.buck@gmail.com" target="_blank">andrew.r.buck@gmail.com</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>Hash: SHA1<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>I added Marcos as an admin on the tasking manager so he should be able<br>to just create the jobs himself once he knows the areas.<br><br>- -AndrewBuck<br>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux)<br>Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - <a href="http://www.enigmail.net/" target="_blank">http://www.enigmail.net/</a><br><br>iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTutj2AAoJEK7RwIfxHSXbsk4P/36X4hwg/0PBnW6krgxQ5zga<br>4KfoQXTgeT2CO8ERjfpGVHRWL6UneJK68ydCvACyk8vJqNyr+8X5S0HVQia1VNjM<br>Tq5zHUhVlulqNVIP7mpzPrPEJ09KmB0H44AMslicfqgV/4z9MIjT9MsXSQfXvXqO<br>3ZTjIUM2KuxjRAJpYErxH/5gAg564hPXk8xFJpElDtqN4QltDk5pMvFkxr+gcsx5<br>MA6hYY9wTYOULaBAvPMx7QAt2vUjEj6/5YmYHzVBSsXVUAE56Q8qox1u86iTl+Vh<br>xfUrC23h7fbTwhfmSG8XUIO3yJv5LnIGMOK6WCgz+jiMS2POJA+ukSvSwaVgDU9P<br>OEIfoA3fFfytE72Vn7J3tKi9EPdOl26b0ZvqgcV/Uquq8+nNIsV0+8+HEasj+VDG<br>Ywhk8yBzyme12MnD3oA6gnwuDjROjGKK9UvcayLEz+yALT0fXHuS2QDPWVGmYCfL<br>QjXR/8l2D3tF82TYaYmBNa/yVFn1/pd68zJekBjBXI6kXNM00Z3Y439vfVYViWjy<br>DasVIV6uNPGljfNoV97EsIbmaj/WvO/zwIMn98PIX3obpLFoof39ysmqvZZMtnI6<br>MI9jPWmwWgOwTIiF1/FDqPl1xBhSq+UtKGys5H/T3+FSgRCSLONw7+P7qWnbZ71C<br>HkfJ76l69eTk7mogYMPH<br>=ZS1l<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>HOT mailing list<br><a href="mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">HOT@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <br>Um Abraço,<br>Marcos Oliveira<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>HOT mailing list<br><a href="mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org">HOT@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>