<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi all, I have been a bit quiet, just coming back on line after one month recovering form a Motor Bike Crash. Seems I am not as invincible as I thought :)</div><div><br></div>Nick +1 for your comments, I totally agree. I also think and Opt In or Opt Out Check Box "Please send me comments" on the Task for each User, or On the Users Profile for all Tasks would be of a lot of use. Some users may want feedback whilst some may not. The Validator then knows he is welcome to provide feedback, tips and tricks which is a fantastic way of sharing knowledge. To help police inappropriate Validation Comments, a "Report This Validation Message" Button could be to be sent to someone in HOT to review so that the system is not abused, as pretty much anyone could can be a Validator.<div>
<br></div><div>Feedback from Validators provides a fantastic opportunity to learn, especially for new users and the dialog that is created can only be of huge benefit to those people who want it. When I started, I certainly would have asked for feedback. Andrew B gave me a huge amount of help via mumble on all sorts of tips and tricks .. and helped bring me closer to the HOT Community in a lot of ways .</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Nick Allen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nick.allen.54@gmail.com" target="_blank">nick.allen.54@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Hi,<br>
<br>
On the subject of validation.<br>
<br>
As someone who now spends most of their mapping time validating, I
think we 'sell' it the wrong way. I only use the validation button
in JOSM now if I think I am going to find something, and generally
use the HOT-Validate paint Style (Well worth trying if you're a JOSM
user, even if you don't validate). But I think even that is too much
of a requirement. I have seen some excellent mapping by iD &
Potlatch users & I would like to see some of them carrying out
validating - if they are capable of mapping to such a high standard
then they are perfectly capable of zooming in to look at others work
& saying 'yes', 'yes but', or 'no'. I rarely use the 'no' option
and to be honest it could just as easily be an experienced mapper
because it generally means there is a significant portion of the
square not mapped (I like to think the imagery didn't load properly
& that was why they missed the village entirely!)<br>
<br>
Mapping =<br>
I'd like to see us rewrite the manuals, wiki's, slideshows etc., so
they show mapping for HOT needs roads connected, traced at a
suitable scale & classed more or less correctly (I don't think
we should get too hung up about this - its often only when you are
looking at an area of several squares in size that you can work out
which are the primary, secondary, tertiary etc - get it traced, tag
what it looks like & make sure that someone with an overview
alters the tags later if need be). Buildings square or round and as
accurate as they can be within reason. Rivers traced. leisure=
common & amenity=school where appropriate - anything else
specific to the project. <br>
<br>
Validating=<br>
Make sure that Mapping = was done ok.<br>
<br>
It would be good to offer variety to our mappers & validating,
if sold correctly, is not difficult & can be very rewarding. 99%
of the time I'm making comments like 'All looks good, thanks'.
Occasionally it's something like 'Looks good, but can you join the
roads to each other & not the landuse=residential boundary. I've
sorted it this time', I worried for a while about sending messages
to mappers about ways they could improve, but the feedback I've had
from those concerned has been good, and I make sure I only send a
message if it's obvious the person is making the same mistake
consistently - a point in case being round huts which are not
obvious unless someone points them out. (wiki entry about validating
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data</a>
if I've interested you).<br>
<br>
I'd still like a tick box in the TM so that when I want to send my
comments to the mapper, I can easily do so. But I don't think that
is as important as allowing mappers easier access to the validators
comments. <br>
<br>
Just a few thoughts - by the way, I'd welcome help from anyone who
fancies doing more validating! If you'd like it, I'm quite happy to
validate your validations until you feel more confident.<br>
<br>
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