<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Rafael,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light,Helvetica Neue Light,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light,Helvetica Neue Light,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>how do you process the update of the polygons to remove the place tag in this? A second file that you will produce to edit these?<br></span></div><div> </div><div><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;">Pierre <br></span><br></div> <div
style="font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b> Rafael Avila Coya <ravilacoya@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">À :</span></b> hot@openstreetmap.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b> Mercredi 3 septembre 2014 12h04<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Objet :</span></b> Re: [HOT] West Africa Ebola Activation : follow-up<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br clear="none">Hash: SHA1<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Hi, Andrew:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I can start tomorrow early in the morning (it's now
midnight in the<br clear="none">Philippines and I am going to sleep).<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Could you produce that osm file with the residential polygons (only<br clear="none">those that have names of course)? Better if you split them in three<br clear="none">files, one for each country, so it's easier to process them. I am in a<br clear="none">tiny island using 3G, so I could run out of data easily. The files,<br clear="none">you can upload them to dropbox or something similar. With luck, I<br clear="none">could maybe have the result file during the morning, but never promise<br clear="none">anything.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">About the pgp, I guess I have to update my system...<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Cheers,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Rafael.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">On 03/09/14 22:30, Andrew Buck wrote:<br clear="none">> Yeah, this sounds like a good process to me. For the area for the <br
clear="none">> overpass query it would be Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone. We<br clear="none">> have used the 'area' query in the past with the relation id of the<br clear="none">> country in question with good results using this method. The<br clear="none">> process sounds pretty good. I would say that almost all of the<br clear="none">> areas would be either hamlet or village at most so we would need to<br clear="none">> tweak that slightly, or even just make them all hamlet (which is<br clear="none">> what we are doing with the GNS nodes we are merging in). All of<br clear="none">> these will likely need to be classified anyway so it is hard to<br clear="none">> decide how to classify them at this point when the others haven't<br clear="none">> already been done either.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> On a different topic, I noticed the pgp signature on your last<br clear="none">>
email did not verify correctly (others have in the past), nothing<br clear="none">> to worry about I think, just thought I would mention it. A bit<br clear="none">> odd.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> -AndrewBuck<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> On 09/03/2014 09:19 AM, Rafael Avila Coya wrote:<br clear="none">>> Hi Andrew and Pierre:<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>> The idea would be more or less like this:<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>> Download the 4,500 target polygons with overpass or similar.<br clear="none">>> Maybe one of you who know the area where they are can do it.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>> Then I would generate an osm file with the script (it works with <br clear="none">>> ways as well as with relations). This osm file would have only<br clear="none">>> the nodes for
the place, with the name tag and the kind of place,<br clear="none">>> based on the area. At this moment, the script decides only<br clear="none">>> between village or town, depending on the area (because that was<br clear="none">>> the only need for that specific Nigeria import), but I guess it<br clear="none">>> wouldn't be difficult to tweak the code to produce other kind of<br clear="none">>> places, like hamlet or city. Alternatively, we could just set the<br clear="none">>> place tag as place=fixme or something, and let the contributors<br clear="none">>> decide which is the most suitable node by node, although that<br clear="none">>> would slow the process.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>> The job could be set to be done with the TM, similarly as with<br clear="none">>> the UNICEF import in CAR, or the eHealth Africa Health<br clear="none">>> Facilities imports in Nigeria.
Example:<br clear="none">>> <a shape="rect" href="http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/637" target="_blank">http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/637 </a>A user takes a task and<br clear="none">>> checks node by node that they are ok, and reports any problem in<br clear="none">>> the task comment (if a node was already in OSM, it ignores it<br clear="none">>> (deletes it)). I've set already a few jobs of this kind (the last<br clear="none">>> one a few days ago only), so I can do that myself if you want.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>> Finally, once all the job is finished, we can download the <br clear="none">>> polygons again with overpass or mirror download, delete all the <br clear="none">>> names for the residential polygons at once using filters and<br clear="none">>> upload the changes.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>> I maybe missing something here, anyway...<br clear="none">>
<br clear="none">>> Cheers,<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>> Rafael.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>> On 03/09/14 21:24, Pierre Béland wrote:<br clear="none">>>> Hi Rafael,<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>>> this script look interesting, taking care to remove the tag and<br clear="none">>>> place it on a node.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>>> Since there might be names around to reconcile with, this<br clear="none">>>> import cannot be done mecanically.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>>> There are some 4,500 of these places on polygons. To share this<br clear="none">>>> task among many contributors, I think that a good solution<br clear="none">>>> would be that the output of your script split the list of<br clear="none">>>> polygons + places, with a maximum of 100 polygons /
places per<br clear="none">>>> file,<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>>> This way, the JOSM Todo plugin would let go rapidly through the<br clear="none">>>> list of place nodes, merge with an other place if appropriate<br clear="none">>>> and upload the result to the OSM database.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>>> Is this make sense?<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>>> Pierre<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br clear="none">><br clear="none">>>> <br clear="none">>>> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>> *De :* Rafael Avila Coya <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ravilacoya@gmail.com" href="mailto:ravilacoya@gmail.com">ravilacoya@gmail.com</a>><br clear="none">>>> *À :* <a shape="rect"
ymailto="mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org" href="mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org">hot@openstreetmap.org</a> *Envoyé le :* Mercredi 3 septembre<br clear="none">>>> 2014 2h25 *Objet :* Re: [HOT] West Africa Ebola Activation : <br clear="none">>>> follow-up<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>>> Hi, Pierre:<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>>> I wonder if you thought about replacing the names on the <br clear="none">>>> residential polygons by a node in their centroid automatically<br clear="none">>>> using a script.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>>> I created one for a similar task: the import of place names for<br clear="none">>>> several states in North Nigeria, still a work in progress<br clear="none">>>> [1]. For that, I wrote a script that extracts the names of the<br clear="none">>>> places and creates an osm file with the nodes.<br
clear="none">> <br clear="none">>>> If needed, I can tweak the code to make one for this ebola<br clear="none">>>> task.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>>> Cheers,<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>>> Rafael.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>>> [1] <br clear="none">>>> <a shape="rect" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_Nigeria_eHealth_Africa_Places" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_Nigeria_eHealth_Africa_Places</a><br clear="none">><br clear="none">>>> <br clear="none">>>> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>> On 03/09/14 06:45, Pierre Béland wrote:<br clear="none">>>>> From march to sept. 1, there are 1,201 OSM contributors who<br clear="none">>>>> edited 6.7 million objects for Guinea, Liberia and Sierra <br clear="none">>>>> Leone. But
reading the news, you understand that we cannot<br clear="none">>>>> stop there. Humanitarian organizations are operating in a<br clear="none">>>>> very difficult context and count on our support. We receive <br clear="none">>>>> constantly messages of gratitude, people saying how useful<br clear="none">>>>> is this information for them plus all the export services <br clear="none">>>>> provided.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>>>> Plus a vast plan of support by the various UN Agencies is <br clear="none">>>>> presently organized. Andrew Buck and I ha today a meeting<br clear="none">>>>> with GIS staff from World Health Organization (WHO), Office<br clear="none">>>>> for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) and the<br clear="none">>>>> World food program (WFP). After looking at the various<br
clear="none">>>>> possibilities, it has been proposed to use OpenStreetMap for<br clear="none">>>>> the base map of the various agencies.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>>>> In this context, it will be important to revise / complete<br clear="none">>>>> both administrative boundaries and populated places.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>>>> To plan their intervention, the humanitarian organizations<br clear="none">>>>> need administrative boundaries at various levels of<br clear="none">>>>> administration and the Populated place names. We have already<br clear="none">>>>> revised the the counties and added district boundaries for<br clear="none">>>>> the Liberia and are looking at the other countries.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>>>> If any of you have contacts in Sierra Leone or Guinea to try<br
clear="none">>>>> obtain administrative boundary files with the appropriate <br clear="none">>>>> license for OSM, this would greatly help.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>>>> For the populated places, we agreed to move any place name <br clear="none">>>>> which is on a residential polygon to a node. This will<br clear="none">>>>> simplify the synchronization with the databases of our<br clear="none">>>>> various partners. We are also looking at adding a pcode like<br clear="none">>>>> we did for Haii in 2010. There are 4,500 place tags on<br clear="none">>>>> residential polygons to be converted to nodes.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>>>> Plus there are two Task Manager jobs still to be completed to<br clear="none">>>>> import place names for Liberia and Sierra Leone. These two <br
clear="none">>>>> tasks needs some care and we are asking again for<br clear="none">>>>> contributors familiar enough with JOSM to contact either me<br clear="none">>>>> or Andrew. Since these are private jobs restricted to a few<br clear="none">>>>> persons, you need to provide us you OpenStreetMap account. <br clear="none">>>>> <a shape="rect" href="http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/617" target="_blank">http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/617</a><br clear="none">>>> <<a shape="rect" href="http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/617" target="_blank">http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/617</a>><br clear="none">>>>> <a shape="rect" href="http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/619" target="_blank">http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/619</a><br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>>>> Blake Girardot can also help people to learn this process.<br clear="none">> <br
clear="none">>>>> For those that prefer to do general mapping, digitizing from <br clear="none">>>>> Bing Imagery, look at the task for Eastern Liberia counties.<br clear="none">>>>> As the epidemy is still progressing, we will also add task<br clear="none">>>>> for the north-east Nimba county.<br clear="none">>>>> <a shape="rect" href="http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/624" target="_blank">http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/624</a><br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>>>> Pierre<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>>>> _______________________________________________ HOT mailing <br clear="none">>>>> list <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org" href="mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org">HOT@openstreetmap.org</a> <mailto:<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org"
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