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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Pierre & Severin,<br>
<br>
I agree with you both in that the layout of the home or front page
could / should be improved. <br>
<br>
There is always going to be some discussion about 'urgent' or
'high', which will often vary according to the readers perspective
- if it's your house on fire it tends to be your priority. But,
the classifications at least give an indication - there are many
of us who rely on 'someone in the organization' to look at the
overall situation & make an educated decision as to priorities
& we at least take note of that guidance. There will be many
times when my mapping (or validation) is based upon this priority
system.<br>
<br>
But I have also learnt that in life I need a certain amount of
variety - I have in the past traced buildings day after day after
day, but if that were the only type of task available to me, I
would be unable to maintain my level of concentration &
commitment for the months / years that the overall project &
concept of HOT will require. The concept of themes or tags could
allow a simple method of providing some level of variety for
HOTties so they continue to contribute rather than drift away
because they no longer felt challenged. Some tasks also need to be
simple, or quick because someone is learning, or they know they
only have a very limited amount of time available at that moment.<br>
<br>
Before I retired my organisation changed many of its operating
systems, and they reviewed their working systems on a regular
basis - as a man manager I was encouraged to ensure my staff felt
they could influence the decisions made - they had some form of
'ownership' of their working environment. We also encouraged a
sense of geographical ownership, so that we attempted to make sure
that our chosen geographical area received the best treatment -
many of our staff went beyond what was expected of them because
they felt an affiliation to an area or problem.<br>
<br>
The TM tends to be our focal point, so it could contain more links
to jobs which are outside of the normal 'map this square'
requirement, as well as the more normal mapping requirements -
Each task could therefore have a number of tags or labels applied
to it, such as;<br>
Quick / simple mapping, Complicated - involves correcting problems
with relations, Urgent, Validating required, Suitable for newbies,
Field Papers - adding address details following a ground survey,
Missing Maps Project, Map Lesotho, MSF, Red Cross / Crescent, WASH
data import, translation of article from French to Italian, etc..
& some tasks are a simple link to a wiki or web page
explaining what is required, etc..<br>
<br>
I can see that what I've outlined here could easily appear messy,
and careful design would be needed to ensure it does not
degenerate into a flow chart nightmare. <br>
<br>
I'm not sure how everyone else uses their time, but I look at the
TM at least once a day, and to me it makes sense to have more
links from it & use it as the focal point it has become.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Nick (Tallguy)<br>
<br>
<br>
On 04/09/14 22:36, Pierre Béland wrote:<br>
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<div style="" class=""><span style="" class="">Hi Severin,</span></div>
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style="" class="">While we discussed the development of V2,
I proposed to classify the jobs by project and to present
on the main page the list of projects.</span></div>
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<span style="" class=""></span></div>
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style="" class="">We can provide a link for the contributors
to access all the jobs for a project like the link below.
But I dont find it satisfactory.</span></div>
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style="" class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://tasks.hotosm.org/?sort_by=priority&direction=asc&search=south-sudan">http://tasks.hotosm.org/?sort_by=priority&direction=asc&search=south-sudan</a></span></div>
<br style="" class="">
<div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px;
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style="" class="">With all the projects going on and these
Major activations taking all the place, I can understand the
frustration of many coordinators.</span></div>
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</span></div>
<div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px;
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style="" class="">Your proposition of grouping the projects
in various thematics is interesting. And your
classification looks satisfactory to me.</span></div>
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style="" class="">
<span style="" class="">For a given project, we often use the
same short_description text, from one job to the other. The
contributors are confronted with a long list of description
of projects. I dont find this very appealing.</span></div>
<div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px;
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<div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px;
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background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">What I
would see is a hierarchy <br style="" class="">
</div>
<div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px;
font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light,Helvetica Neue
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background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Thematics</div>
<div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px;
font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light,Helvetica Neue
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background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">- Project</div>
<div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px;
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background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"> - job <br
style="" class="">
</div>
<div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px;
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background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"> - job</div>
<span style="" class=""></span><br style="" class="">
<div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px;
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background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">One
enhancement would also be to use a hide / show functions with
+ , - signs to present the thematics, projects and jobs. At
the beginning, only the title for each of these elements would
be presented.</div>
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I would vote for such addition to be a priority in the
developments to make to the TM.<br style="" class="">
<div style="" class=""><span class=""
style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0,
191);font-weight:bold;">Pierre <br style="" class="">
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<hr style="" class="" size="1"> <font style="" class=""
face="Arial" size="2"> <b style="" class=""><span
class="" style="font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b>
Severin Menard <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:severin.menard@gmail.com"><severin.menard@gmail.com></a><br
style="" class="">
<b style="" class=""><span class="" style="font-weight:
bold;">À :</span></b> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org">"hot@openstreetmap.org"</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org"><hot@openstreetmap.org></a> <br style="" class="">
<b style="" class=""><span class="" style="font-weight:
bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b> Jeudi 4 septembre 2014
16h17<br style="" class="">
<b style="" class=""><span class="" style="font-weight:
bold;">Objet :</span></b> [HOT] HOT Tasking Manager:
missing a frontpage by projects<br style="" class="">
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<div style="" class="">Hi,<br style=""
class="">
<br style="" class="">
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The current front page of the Tasking
Manager v2 looks like a lot to the v1,
with a search bar and an automatic
ranking. The default one is no more the
creation date, but the priority .<br
style="" class="">
<br style="" class="">
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Actually, this way of presenting the
projects is quite messy and make invisible
everything that is no high or urgent (and
IMHO it is complicated to make the
difference between high and urgent when it
deals with a deep humanitarian crisis,
between population killed by such epidemic
or another, civil war or was between two
states), like the development or
preparedness projects. Some crisis related
projects are also quickly going in the
bottom where few mappers will go and dig.
<br style="" class="">
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<div style="" class="">Thus anybody has no
clear idea about the ongoing projects and
many contributing opportunities are
missed.<br style="" class="">
<br style="" class="">
</div>
IMHO, the front page should present (at
least) these categories:<br style=""
class="">
- Priority tasks for those who would like to
go to the current front page<br style=""
class="">
- Crisis Activations<br style="" class="">
- Crisis support (or a better expression
related what is not under an 'official" HOT
Activation but relates to a crisis, like the
Tharparkar Drought this year), <br style=""
class="">
- Disaster Preparedness<br style="" class="">
- Development projects<br style="" class="">
</div>
- Humanitarian organization requests (that
actually can crosscut other categories)<br
style="" class="">
</div>
- Community driven projects (for those made by
local OSM communities)<br style="" class="">
<br style="" class="">
</div>
All those categories would lead to a page where
the projects have one slot each, then the child
pages would list the different jobs related to
each of them.<br style="" class="">
<br style="" class="">
</div>
Having a tagging system of jobs would facilitate
such page presentation. Thoughts?<br style=""
class="">
<br style="" class="">
</div>
Sincerely,<br style="" class="">
<br style="" class="">
Severinb<br style="" class="">
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