<div dir="ltr">Ralph and Nick,<div>Thank you very much for your suggestions.</div><div>Unfortunately we were forced tonight to report the event for security reasonsus, it will therefore take place next Saturday instead.</div><div>However, despite that fact, data are still urgently needed in order to improve the response coordination and they cannot be waiting for another week.</div><div>HIU and others have been doing their best to deliver new imagery this night, so I will set up new tasks tomorrow morning, any volunteer will be able to access those tasks throughtand we still need to trace on it in order to fill the gaps between the previous past tasks.data are still quite needed on.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-family:arial;font-size:small"><font color="#999999">Claire Halleux</font></div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-family:arial;font-size:small"><div><font color="#999999">Volunteer and Member of the Board</font></div><div><span style="color:rgb(153,153,153)">+243 99 256 9980 (Kinshasa, DRC)</span><font color="#999999"><br></font></div><div><font color="#999999">Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team</font></div><div><font color="#999999"><br></font></div></div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-family:arial;font-size:small"><a href="http://www.hotosm.org/" style="font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://www.hotosm.org/</a></div><div><font color="#888888"><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2014_DRC_Ebola_Response" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2014_DRC_Ebola_Response</a></font><br></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Nick Allen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nick.allen.54@gmail.com" target="_blank">nick.allen.54@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Claire,<br>
<br>
I may be able to help a bit at the start of the session, but I
have a commitment for most of the day & evening - if there are
any outstanding squares for validation I will try to join in later
at night.<br>
Could I suggest we try to keep it as close to normal as possible
- if I check a square & am happy, I will validate it, but may
put a comment in the comments box concerning any slight changes I
may make. Because of my lack of language skills, I created these
two links on the wiki which could be pasted into the comments box
& hopefully would help to pass information;<br>
Buildings which have not been squared, but should have been
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data/Buildings_feedback" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data/Buildings_feedback</a><br>
<br>
Not adding a changeset comment when saving / uploading
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data/Changeset_comment_missing" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data/Changeset_comment_missing</a><br>
<br>
I sometimes send a message using the OSM message system, and on
occasion have linked the message with screenshots showing the
changes I have made. <br>
<br>
I strongly suspect that smaller squares will mean that it is more
difficult to interpret
<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa</a> but this
will not be the fault of the new mapper, just an indication of how
difficult it is when you can only see a small area. It will need
the validator(s) to take an overview of several squares &
change the tags appropriatly - this is fairly easy once the mapper
has done the difficult & time consuming job of tracing the
path / track / unclassified / residential ............. way.<br>
<br>
Hope this helps.<br>
<br>
Regards & have a good day.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
Nick</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br>
On 12/09/14 02:51, Claire Halleux wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Nick and Volunteers,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>On Saturday morning, from 900 to 1300 UTC, we'll be having
another small mapathon/mapping party in Kinshasa in order to
edit Ebola affected area in DRC, using some new imagery.
Nearly all of the participants will be beginners, so I am
planning to create another task with small squares and I think
this could be a good place for testing this type of training
task. Potential validators will be welcome to send feedback
during the event. As it usually gathers between 10 and 20
participants, a few validators would be enough in theory.</div>
<div>Let me know if anyone would like to support this event,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Moreover, do you think exchanging messages within TM and
OSM website will be enough? or should we try to set up an
additional skype group or anything else for the event? IRC?
(local participants have never used it as far as I know, same
with Mumble).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Claire</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-family:arial;font-size:small"><font color="#999999">Claire Halleux</font></div>
<div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-family:arial;font-size:small">
<div><font color="#999999">Volunteer and Member of the
Board</font></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(153,153,153)">+243 99 256
9980 (Kinshasa, DRC)</span><font color="#999999"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font color="#999999">Humanitarian OpenStreetMap
Team</font></div>
<div><font color="#999999"><br>
</font></div>
</div>
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<div><font color="#888888"><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2014_DRC_Ebola_Response" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2014_DRC_Ebola_Response</a></font><br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:39 AM, Nick
Allen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nick.allen.54@gmail.com" target="_blank">nick.allen.54@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Ralph,<br>
<br>
Thanks for the offer of help - you're likely to see a
request for help approaching the 30th September when we
have another Missing Maps Project Mapathon in London. <br>
<br>
I'm really hoping that Blake can make progress on a
guide to satellite imagery - it's been on my todo list
for some time, but I'm conscious I've started many
things and it would be good if I actually finished a few
of them. Although I agree that starting new mappers with
crisp images would be good, I think it would be good to
include a few fuzzy ones in the guide to show what you
have to deal with sometimes - educated guessing?<br>
<br>
At the moment I'm not intending to contact mappers who
have not marked as complete the squares they have
opened. There can be genuine reasons - it's happened to
me several times. It can also be a question of
confidence & I don't want to frighten anyone away.
If we can get a trial area, and the trial works, then
this may largely solve the problem. I think also that
the general discussion will have raised awareness &
that can make a difference as well.<br>
<br>
Thanks again<br>
<br>
Nick<br>
(Tallguy)<br>
<br>
On 09/09/14 17:53, AYTOUN RALPH wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Nick,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I have been mapping the Africa HOT projects and
am familiar with the 'on the ground' knowledge of
some parts of Africa.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I like your idea for assisting the new mappers
and agree that some of the image material is pretty
difficult to map due to various reasons...cloud
cover, fuzzy images or overcrowded towns and slum
areas to mention some.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Choosing easier areas with sharp images would
help the new mappers to get the feel of the work and
build up confidence, and having feedback for their
work early on would help them to know if they are
doing the right thing or not.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>To this end I am willing to give you a hand in
helping new mappers to read the imagery, create more
complex building shapes and the use of basic tags.
Please let me know if there is anything I can do to
help.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I have come across the increasing problem of
mappers not happy about marking squares as done, I
have gone to numerous squares and apart from a few
tweaks there is nothing left to do, but a number of
mappers have opened that square, looked around and
then unlocked it again. I feel guilty marking those
squares as done when I have hardly done any work on
them. Should we contact the person that has done the
most work and tell them they have done well and
could they please go back in and mark it as done so
they get the credit for closing it?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards</div>
<div>Ralph</div>
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