<div dir="ltr"><div>HI folks, Andrew and I updated the Discussions for the Training Working Group document with all these amazing ideas and projects:<br><br><a href="https://hackpad.com/Discussion-ideas-for-HOTs-training-working-group-mYgJQEbueIi">https://hackpad.com/Discussion-ideas-for-HOTs-training-working-group-mYgJQEbueIi</a><br><br></div><div>I tried to capture proper credit on ideas. I'll also review the rest of the notes on training this week and keep adding. <br><br></div><div>Thank you again for being inspiring<br><br></div><div><br></div>Heather <br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>Heather Leson<br><a href="mailto:heatherleson@gmail.com" target="_blank">heatherleson@gmail.com</a><br>Twitter: HeatherLeson <br>Blog: <a href="http://textontechs.com" target="_blank">textontechs.com</a><br></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 3:11 AM, Nick Allen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nick.allen.54@gmail.com" target="_blank">nick.allen.54@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <div>Claire,<br>
      <br>
      I'm sorry to hear that. I've put next week in my diary.<br>
      <br>
      Keep up the good work.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
      <br>
      Nick</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br>
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      On 13/09/14 03:20, Claire Halleux wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Ralph and Nick,
        <div>Thank you very much for your suggestions.</div>
        <div>Unfortunately we were forced tonight to report the event
          for security reasonsus, it will therefore take place next
          Saturday instead.</div>
        <div>However, despite that fact, data are still urgently needed
          in order to improve the response coordination and they cannot
          be waiting for another week.</div>
        <div>HIU and others have been doing their best to deliver new
          imagery this night, so I will set up new tasks tomorrow
          morning, any volunteer will be able to access those tasks
          throughtand we still need to trace on it in order to fill the
          gaps between the previous past tasks.data are still quite
          needed on.</div>
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              <div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-family:arial;font-size:small"><font color="#999999">Claire Halleux</font></div>
              <div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-family:arial;font-size:small">
                <div><font color="#999999">Volunteer and Member of the
                    Board</font></div>
                <div><span style="color:rgb(153,153,153)">+243 99 256
                    9980 (Kinshasa, DRC)</span><font color="#999999"><br>
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                <div><font color="#999999">Humanitarian OpenStreetMap
                    Team</font></div>
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              <div><font color="#888888"><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2014_DRC_Ebola_Response" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2014_DRC_Ebola_Response</a></font><br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Nick
          Allen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nick.allen.54@gmail.com" target="_blank">nick.allen.54@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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              <div>Claire,<br>
                <br>
                I may be able to help a bit at the start of the session,
                but I have a commitment for most of the day &
                evening - if there are any outstanding squares for
                validation I will try to join in later at night.<br>
                 Could I suggest we try to keep it as close to normal as
                possible - if I check a square & am happy, I will
                validate it, but may put a comment in the comments box
                concerning any slight changes I may make. Because of my
                lack of language skills, I created these two links on
                the wiki which could be pasted into the comments box
                & hopefully would help to pass information;<br>
                Buildings which have not been squared, but should have
                been 
                <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data/Buildings_feedback" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data/Buildings_feedback</a><br>
                <br>
                Not adding a changeset comment when saving / uploading  
                <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data/Changeset_comment_missing" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data/Changeset_comment_missing</a><br>
                <br>
                I sometimes send a message using the OSM message system,
                and on occasion have linked the message with screenshots
                showing the changes I have made.  <br>
                <br>
                I strongly suspect that smaller squares will mean that
                it is more difficult to interpret <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa</a>
                but this will not be the fault of the new mapper, just
                an indication of how difficult it is when you can only
                see a small area. It will need the validator(s) to take
                an overview of several squares & change the tags
                appropriatly - this is fairly easy once the mapper has
                done the difficult & time consuming job of tracing
                the path / track / unclassified / residential
                ............. way.<br>
                <br>
                Hope this helps.<br>
                <br>
                Regards & have a good day.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
                    <br>
                    Nick</font></span>
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                    On 12/09/14 02:51, Claire Halleux wrote:<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">Hi Nick and Volunteers,
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                      <div>On Saturday morning, from 900 to 1300 UTC,
                        we'll be having another small mapathon/mapping
                        party in Kinshasa in order to edit Ebola
                        affected area in DRC, using some new imagery.
                        Nearly all of the participants will be
                        beginners, so I am planning to create another
                        task with small squares and I think this could
                        be a good place for testing this type of
                        training task. Potential validators will be
                        welcome to send feedback during the event. As it
                        usually gathers between 10 and 20 participants,
                        a few validators would be enough in theory.</div>
                      <div>Let me know if anyone would like to support
                        this event,</div>
                      <div><br>
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                      <div>Moreover, do you think exchanging messages
                        within TM and OSM website will be enough? or
                        should we try to set up an additional skype
                        group or anything else for the event? IRC?
                        (local participants have never used it as far as
                        I know, same with Mumble).</div>
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                      <div>Best,</div>
                      <div><br>
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                      <div>Claire</div>
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                            <div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-family:arial;font-size:small"><font color="#999999">Claire Halleux</font></div>
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                              <div><font color="#999999">Volunteer and
                                  Member of the Board</font></div>
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                                  99 256 9980 (Kinshasa, DRC)</span><font color="#999999"><br>
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                                  OpenStreetMap Team</font></div>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at
                        12:39 AM, Nick Allen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nick.allen.54@gmail.com" target="_blank">nick.allen.54@gmail.com</a>></span>
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                            <div>Ralph,<br>
                              <br>
                              Thanks for the offer of help - you're
                              likely to see a request for help
                              approaching the 30th September when we
                              have another Missing Maps Project Mapathon
                              in London. <br>
                              <br>
                              I'm really hoping that Blake can make
                              progress on a guide to satellite imagery -
                              it's been on my todo list for some time,
                              but I'm conscious I've started many things
                              and it would be good if I actually
                              finished a few of them. Although I agree
                              that starting new mappers with crisp
                              images would be good, I think it would be
                              good to include a few fuzzy ones in the
                              guide to show what you have to deal with
                              sometimes - educated guessing?<br>
                              <br>
                              At the moment I'm not intending to contact
                              mappers who have not marked as complete
                              the squares they have opened. There can be
                              genuine reasons - it's happened to me
                              several times. It can also be a question
                              of confidence & I don't want to
                              frighten anyone away. If we can get a
                              trial area, and the trial works, then this
                              may largely solve the problem. I think
                              also that the general discussion will have
                              raised awareness & that can make a
                              difference as well.<br>
                              <br>
                              Thanks again<br>
                              <br>
                              Nick<br>
                              (Tallguy)<br>
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                              On 09/09/14 17:53, AYTOUN RALPH wrote:<br>
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                              <div dir="ltr">Hi Nick,
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>I have been mapping the Africa HOT
                                  projects and am familiar with the 'on
                                  the ground' knowledge of some parts of
                                  Africa.</div>
                                <div><br>
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                                <div>I like your idea for assisting the
                                  new mappers and agree that some of the
                                  image material is pretty difficult to
                                  map due to various reasons...cloud
                                  cover, fuzzy images or overcrowded
                                  towns and slum areas to mention some.</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>Choosing easier areas with sharp
                                  images would help the new mappers to
                                  get the feel of the work and build up
                                  confidence, and having feedback for
                                  their work early on would help them to
                                  know if they are doing the right thing
                                  or not.</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>To this end I am willing to give
                                  you a hand in helping new mappers to
                                  read the imagery, create more complex
                                  building shapes and the use of basic
                                  tags. Please let me know if there is
                                  anything I can do to help.</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>I have come across the increasing
                                  problem of mappers not happy about
                                  marking squares as done, I have gone
                                  to numerous squares and apart from a
                                  few tweaks there is nothing left to
                                  do, but a number of mappers have
                                  opened that square, looked around and
                                  then unlocked it again. I feel guilty
                                  marking those squares as done when I
                                  have hardly done any work on them.
                                  Should we contact the person that has
                                  done the most work and tell them they
                                  have done well and could they please
                                  go back in and mark it as done so they
                                  get the credit for closing it?</div>
                                <div><br>
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                                <div>Regards</div>
                                <div>Ralph</div>
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                            <span> <br>
                              <br>
                              <div>-- <br>
                                <p style="margin-bottom:0cm">Nick</p>
                                <p style="margin-bottom:0cm"> <font style="font-size:8pt" size="1">Volunteer
                                    'Tallguy' for <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team</a></font></p>
                                <p style="margin-bottom:0cm"><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Tallguy" target="_blank"><font style="font-size:8pt" size="1">http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Tallguy</font></a></p>
                                <p style="margin-bottom:0cm"><font style="font-size:8pt" size="1">Treasurer,
                                    website & Bonus Ball admin for <a href="http://www.6thswanleyscouts.org.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.6thswanleyscouts.org.uk/</a>
                                    (<a href="mailto:treasurer@6thswanleyscouts.org.uk" target="_blank">treasurer@6thswanleyscouts.org.uk</a>)</font></p>
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                  <div>-- <br>
                    <p style="margin-bottom:0cm">Nick</p>
                    <p style="margin-bottom:0cm"> <font style="font-size:8pt" size="1">Volunteer
                        'Tallguy' for <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team</a></font></p>
                    <p style="margin-bottom:0cm"><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Tallguy" target="_blank"><font style="font-size:8pt" size="1">http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Tallguy</font></a></p>
                    <p style="margin-bottom:0cm"><font style="font-size:8pt" size="1">Treasurer,
                        website & Bonus Ball admin for <a href="http://www.6thswanleyscouts.org.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.6thswanleyscouts.org.uk/</a>
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    <div>-- <br>
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      <p style="margin-bottom:0cm">
        
        <font style="font-size:8pt" size="1">Volunteer
          'Tallguy' for
          <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team</a></font></p>
      <p style="margin-bottom:0cm"><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Tallguy" target="_blank"><font style="font-size:8pt" size="1">http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Tallguy</font></a></p>
      <p style="margin-bottom:0cm"><font style="font-size:8pt" size="1">Treasurer,
          website & Bonus Ball admin for
          <a href="http://www.6thswanleyscouts.org.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.6thswanleyscouts.org.uk/</a>
          (<a href="mailto:treasurer@6thswanleyscouts.org.uk" target="_blank">treasurer@6thswanleyscouts.org.uk</a>)</font></p>
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