<div dir="ltr"><div>HI folks, Andrew and I updated the Discussions for the Training Working Group document with all these amazing ideas and projects:<br><br><a href="https://hackpad.com/Discussion-ideas-for-HOTs-training-working-group-mYgJQEbueIi">https://hackpad.com/Discussion-ideas-for-HOTs-training-working-group-mYgJQEbueIi</a><br><br></div><div>I tried to capture proper credit on ideas. I'll also review the rest of the notes on training this week and keep adding. <br><br></div><div>Thank you again for being inspiring<br><br></div><div><br></div>Heather <br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>Heather Leson<br><a href="mailto:heatherleson@gmail.com" target="_blank">heatherleson@gmail.com</a><br>Twitter: HeatherLeson <br>Blog: <a href="http://textontechs.com" target="_blank">textontechs.com</a><br></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 3:11 AM, Nick Allen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nick.allen.54@gmail.com" target="_blank">nick.allen.54@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Claire,<br>
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I'm sorry to hear that. I've put next week in my diary.<br>
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Keep up the good work.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
Nick</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br>
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On 13/09/14 03:20, Claire Halleux wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Ralph and Nick,
<div>Thank you very much for your suggestions.</div>
<div>Unfortunately we were forced tonight to report the event
for security reasonsus, it will therefore take place next
Saturday instead.</div>
<div>However, despite that fact, data are still urgently needed
in order to improve the response coordination and they cannot
be waiting for another week.</div>
<div>HIU and others have been doing their best to deliver new
imagery this night, so I will set up new tasks tomorrow
morning, any volunteer will be able to access those tasks
throughtand we still need to trace on it in order to fill the
gaps between the previous past tasks.data are still quite
needed on.</div>
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<div><font color="#888888"><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2014_DRC_Ebola_Response" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2014_DRC_Ebola_Response</a></font><br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Nick
Allen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nick.allen.54@gmail.com" target="_blank">nick.allen.54@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div>Claire,<br>
<br>
I may be able to help a bit at the start of the session,
but I have a commitment for most of the day &
evening - if there are any outstanding squares for
validation I will try to join in later at night.<br>
Could I suggest we try to keep it as close to normal as
possible - if I check a square & am happy, I will
validate it, but may put a comment in the comments box
concerning any slight changes I may make. Because of my
lack of language skills, I created these two links on
the wiki which could be pasted into the comments box
& hopefully would help to pass information;<br>
Buildings which have not been squared, but should have
been
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data/Buildings_feedback" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data/Buildings_feedback</a><br>
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Not adding a changeset comment when saving / uploading
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data/Changeset_comment_missing" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data/Changeset_comment_missing</a><br>
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I sometimes send a message using the OSM message system,
and on occasion have linked the message with screenshots
showing the changes I have made. <br>
<br>
I strongly suspect that smaller squares will mean that
it is more difficult to interpret <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa</a>
but this will not be the fault of the new mapper, just
an indication of how difficult it is when you can only
see a small area. It will need the validator(s) to take
an overview of several squares & change the tags
appropriatly - this is fairly easy once the mapper has
done the difficult & time consuming job of tracing
the path / track / unclassified / residential
............. way.<br>
<br>
Hope this helps.<br>
<br>
Regards & have a good day.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
Nick</font></span>
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On 12/09/14 02:51, Claire Halleux wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Nick and Volunteers,
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<div>On Saturday morning, from 900 to 1300 UTC,
we'll be having another small mapathon/mapping
party in Kinshasa in order to edit Ebola
affected area in DRC, using some new imagery.
Nearly all of the participants will be
beginners, so I am planning to create another
task with small squares and I think this could
be a good place for testing this type of
training task. Potential validators will be
welcome to send feedback during the event. As it
usually gathers between 10 and 20 participants,
a few validators would be enough in theory.</div>
<div>Let me know if anyone would like to support
this event,</div>
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<div>Moreover, do you think exchanging messages
within TM and OSM website will be enough? or
should we try to set up an additional skype
group or anything else for the event? IRC?
(local participants have never used it as far as
I know, same with Mumble).</div>
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<div>Best,</div>
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<div>Claire</div>
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99 256 9980 (Kinshasa, DRC)</span><font color="#999999"><br>
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12:39 AM, Nick Allen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nick.allen.54@gmail.com" target="_blank">nick.allen.54@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div>Ralph,<br>
<br>
Thanks for the offer of help - you're
likely to see a request for help
approaching the 30th September when we
have another Missing Maps Project Mapathon
in London. <br>
<br>
I'm really hoping that Blake can make
progress on a guide to satellite imagery -
it's been on my todo list for some time,
but I'm conscious I've started many things
and it would be good if I actually
finished a few of them. Although I agree
that starting new mappers with crisp
images would be good, I think it would be
good to include a few fuzzy ones in the
guide to show what you have to deal with
sometimes - educated guessing?<br>
<br>
At the moment I'm not intending to contact
mappers who have not marked as complete
the squares they have opened. There can be
genuine reasons - it's happened to me
several times. It can also be a question
of confidence & I don't want to
frighten anyone away. If we can get a
trial area, and the trial works, then this
may largely solve the problem. I think
also that the general discussion will have
raised awareness & that can make a
difference as well.<br>
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Thanks again<br>
<br>
Nick<br>
(Tallguy)<br>
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On 09/09/14 17:53, AYTOUN RALPH wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Nick,
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<div>I have been mapping the Africa HOT
projects and am familiar with the 'on
the ground' knowledge of some parts of
Africa.</div>
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<div>I like your idea for assisting the
new mappers and agree that some of the
image material is pretty difficult to
map due to various reasons...cloud
cover, fuzzy images or overcrowded
towns and slum areas to mention some.</div>
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<div>Choosing easier areas with sharp
images would help the new mappers to
get the feel of the work and build up
confidence, and having feedback for
their work early on would help them to
know if they are doing the right thing
or not.</div>
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</div>
<div>To this end I am willing to give
you a hand in helping new mappers to
read the imagery, create more complex
building shapes and the use of basic
tags. Please let me know if there is
anything I can do to help.</div>
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<div>I have come across the increasing
problem of mappers not happy about
marking squares as done, I have gone
to numerous squares and apart from a
few tweaks there is nothing left to
do, but a number of mappers have
opened that square, looked around and
then unlocked it again. I feel guilty
marking those squares as done when I
have hardly done any work on them.
Should we contact the person that has
done the most work and tell them they
have done well and could they please
go back in and mark it as done so they
get the credit for closing it?</div>
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<div>Regards</div>
<div>Ralph</div>
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