<div dir="ltr">MapGive is already done a lot of this, rather well I might add. Can't we support them and suggest new videos to create.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Pierre Béland <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pierzenh@yahoo.fr" target="_blank">pierzenh@yahoo.fr</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:garamond,new york,times,serif;font-size:13px">Last year on the learning WG, we discussed about making videos tutorials but it did not go further.<br> <br>This discussion on video tutorials brings in a few questions. <br><br>For buildings, the best practice is to use JOSM. We should first make videos for JOSM and I dont think that we should favor people using ID for example until a building plugin is provided. <br><br>In videos, it is important that Texts on the menu bar be readable.<br><br>A Text section that describes action, key pressed for a specific function, facilitates learning. For example :<br>- shortkey <span style="font-weight:bold"><span>s</span></span> Select features<br>- shortkey
<span style="font-weight:bold">a</span> Draw nodes and lines<br>- shortkey <span style="font-weight:bold">b</span> Buildings<br>- shortkey <span style="font-weight:bold">x</span> Surface making<br><br>I have seen various Tutorials with a detailed Table of contents and short videos for each task, a few minutes maximum. I think that this is the best approach. I wonder how verbose we should be.<br><br>A platform that facilitates translations should be used.<br><div> </div><div><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0,0,191);font-weight:bold">Pierre <br></span><br></div> <div style="font-family:garamond,new york,times,serif;font-size:13px"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">De :</span></b> Blake Girardot <<a href="mailto:bgirardot@gmail.com" target="_blank">bgirardot@gmail.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">À :</span></b> john whelan <<a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>> <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc :</span></b> "<a href="mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">hot@openstreetmap.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">hot@openstreetmap.org</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Envoyé le :</span></b> Mardi 21 octobre 2014 8h12<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Objet :</span></b> Re: [HOT] Video that Best Represents Our Work?<br> </font> </div><div><div class="h5"> <div><br>I intend to re-do this
how-to I made in answer to a question on this <br clear="none">list a little while back:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=042TbopS7HM" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=042TbopS7HM</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">It was done without much preparation and to answer some specific <br clear="none">questions so it needs some adjustments (and I make a mistake in mapping <br clear="none">if you look closely), but I think it is close to what you are talking <br clear="none">about for a quick description of mapping buildings.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">It also uses iD as that is what the person who asked the question used <br clear="none">and it is what most new mappers
will be using.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">There should be one like it for JOSM as well which I will do.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I will also do a second one about roads in each editor.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Regards,<br clear="none">Blake<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">On 10/21/2014 7:58 AM, john whelan wrote:<br clear="none">> So the fantasy would be a simple screen cast video using something like<br clear="none">> HOT task 690 <a shape="rect" href="http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/690" target="_blank">http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/690 </a>since it uses the high<br clear="none">> resolution satellite imagery, Kevin Bullock's presentation<br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="http://vimeo.com/91880883" target="_blank">http://vimeo.com/91880883 </a>covers why this type is best to work from, the<br clear="none">> interesting bit starts 5 mins in to the presentation, locally there have<br clear="none">> been some clean up issues with lower resolution satellite imagery and<br clear="none">> mentioning the use of the JOSM building plug in as mentioned by Tom<br clear="none">> Taylor<br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JkiL8wlvJqdVMgGxKXPzF22YzQ-S08Q31zZQna9CTMk/edit" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JkiL8wlvJqdVMgGxKXPzF22YzQ-S08Q31zZQna9CTMk/edit</a><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> To come back to the original topic I think you need an overview,<br clear="none">> starting perhaps with a couple of interviews from two or three AID<br clear="none">> agencies about why the OSM maps are important to them and how they are<br clear="none">> used. Then flip to the sources of data which are made free to use such<br clear="none">> as DigitalGlobe, UN place names, and finally a few mappers putting it<br clear="none">> altogether. Given that the maps are useful perhaps Unicef or someone<br clear="none">> might have some resources for this? Or the BBC?<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Cheerio John<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> On 21 October 2014 01:42,
Kate Chapman <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kate.chapman@hotosm.org" target="_blank">kate.chapman@hotosm.org</a><br clear="none">> <mailto:<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kate.chapman@hotosm.org" target="_blank">kate.chapman@hotosm.org</a>>> wrote:<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Hi John,<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> There are a few videos out there, but I don't know of too many<br clear="none">> recent ones. You are right a simple screencast showing how to map a<br clear="none">> building for example would be really helpful. I made some videos in<br clear="none">> 2010 about mapping from imagery in Haiti and people
really enjoyed<br clear="none">> them.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Having updated ones would be great.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Best,<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> -Kate<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 5:59 PM, john whelan <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a><br clear="none">> <mailto:<a shape="rect" href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Talking of videos are there any training videos about what HOT<br clear="none">> expects?<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> The reason I ask is that although we break down to give tasks<br clear="none">> can we break it down even more. ie teach someone to do a simple<br clear="none">> task of map a building using high resolution satellite imagery,<br clear="none">> sounds dumb but map one in JOSM, q it to square it, tag it<br clear="none">> building=yes, select, <Crtl>c move the mouse to another <crtl>v,<br clear="none">> adjust
the four corners, q again etc.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> The concept is we can teach people to map buildings on You-tube,<br clear="none">> its simple and has value.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Another would teach people how to recognise a road and to tag it<br clear="none">> or highway=path.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> We may need expertise to map things like water bodies, rivers,<br clear="none">> streams and forests but buildings and footpaths in Africa are<br clear="none">> probably 80% of what needs to be mapped and you
don't need a<br clear="none">> degree in GIS to do this. Let's delegate what we can.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Cheerio John<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> On 20 October 2014 15:55, Kate Chapman <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kate.chapman@hotosm.org" target="_blank">kate.chapman@hotosm.org</a><br clear="none">> <mailto:<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kate.chapman@hotosm.org" target="_blank">kate.chapman@hotosm.org</a>>> wrote:<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Hi All,<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Is there a video you think best represents our work? Most<br clear="none">> videos seem to focus on one project or are a talk at a<br clear="none">> conference. Do we have anything that is less specific?<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Thanks,<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> -Kate<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> --<br clear="none">> Kate Chapman<br clear="none">> Executive
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