<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_20264">Yes this is what I refer to.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_20263"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_20262" dir="ltr">While this is not very clear, we see what looks like structure. They can have various forms and dimensions  but there is generally a cement base.<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_20261"><br><span></span></div><div>This Google search for images shows various examples.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_20407"><a id="yui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_20409" href="https://www.google.ca/search?q=image+pompe+eau+mali&rls=org.mozilla:fr:official&biw=1252&bih=560&tbm=isch&imgil=Ox530FxyMx8ioM%253A%253Bwn25dMEfvasGvM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fmaliactu.info%25252Fsociete%25252Fplaine-de-san-ouest-les-rates-incessants-de-la-station-de-pompage&source=iu&pf=m&fir=Ox530FxyMx8ioM%253A%252Cwn25dMEfvasGvM%252C_&usg=__IQln6GAPsN7nsHf13xPEE680hZk%3D&ved=0CCgQyjc&ei=X_VSVLPcFoS3yATtqIHAAQ">https://www.google.ca/search?q=image+pompe+eau+mali&rls=org.mozilla:fr:official&biw=1252&bih=560&tbm=isch&imgil=Ox530FxyMx8ioM%253A%253Bwn25dMEfvasGvM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fmaliactu.info%25252Fsociete%25252Fplaine-de-san-ouest-les-rates-incessants-de-la-station-de-pompage&source=iu&pf=m&fir=Ox530FxyMx8ioM%253A%252Cwn25dMEfvasGvM%252C_&usg=__IQln6GAPsN7nsHf13xPEE680hZk%3D&ved=0CCgQyjc&ei=X_VSVLPcFoS3yATtqIHAAQ</a><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_20324">  </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_20260"> </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_20259" class="signature"><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;">Pierre <br></span></div><br>  <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_20198" style="font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_20197" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_20196" dir="ltr"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_20318" size="1">  <font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_20195" face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b> S Volk <svolk2@hotmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">À :</span></b> Pierre Béland <pierzenh@yahoo.fr>; "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b> Jeudi 30 octobre 2014 22h15<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Objet :</span></b> RE: [HOT] (hotosm#711) Wells in Kayes/Mali?<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv8460560668"><style>#yiv8460560668 #yiv8460560668 --
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#yiv8460560668 </style><div><div dir="ltr">Thanks Pierre,<div>is this what you say was on top left (I zoomed in to put it the center of screen)?:<div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id&%20#map=22/14.44208/-11.46070">http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id&%20#map=22/14.44208/-11.46070</a><br clear="none"><div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;">(if isn't, may you send the URL?)</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;"><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;">Also this structure looked to me what you talked as circular livestock marks around what may be a well (and many wells have a thick beam on the top, that perhaps split the mark of shadow in two; this place is right on the contact of two aerial images, but shows a circle around; I zoomed to the center): </span></div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id&%20#map=21/14.44327/-11.46493">http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id&%20#map=21/14.44327/-11.46493</a></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;">Is it what you talked?</span></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;">Yes, I guess some little trees constrated may look black spots.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;">Sergio</span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yiv8460560668yqt3259891752" id="yiv8460560668yqt65597"><div><br clear="none"><div><hr id="yiv8460560668stopSpelling">Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 01:37:03 +0000<br clear="none">From: pierzenh@yahoo.fr<br clear="none">To: svolk2@hotmail.com; hot@openstreetmap.org<br clear="none">Subject: Re: [HOT] (hotosm#711) Wells in Kayes/Mali?<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:13px;"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8460560668ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_13933"><span id="yiv8460560668ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_14016">Sergio, <br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8460560668ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_14109"><span id="yiv8460560668ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_14016"><br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8460560668ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_14082"><span id="yiv8460560668ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_14016">after exchanging with Andrew on what we both see on the screen, I realize that looking at my screen with a certain angle, contrasts where better to see paths but the colors of certains objects are affected. In this image, with a certain angle, trees contrast is particularly exegarated and make them look as black spots.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8460560668ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_14078"><br clear="none"><span id="yiv8460560668ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_14016"></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8460560668ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_14079"><span id="yiv8460560668ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_14016">On the top left corner of the place I now see what looks to be a well.</span></div><div id="yiv8460560668ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_13934"> </div><div class="yiv8460560668ecxsignature" id="yiv8460560668ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_13935"><span id="yiv8460560668ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_14023" style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;">Pierre <br clear="none"></span></div><br clear="none">  <div id="yiv8460560668ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_13972" style="font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:13px;"> <div id="yiv8460560668ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_13971" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr" id="yiv8460560668ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_13970"> <hr id="yiv8460560668ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_14077" size="1">  <font id="yiv8460560668ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_13973" face="Arial" size="2"> <b id="yiv8460560668ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_14076"><span id="yiv8460560668ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_14075" style="font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b> Pierre Béland <pierzenh@yahoo.fr><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">À :</span></b> S Volk <svolk2@hotmail.com>; "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b> Jeudi 30 octobre 2014 18h43<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Objet :</span></b> Re: [HOT] (hotosm#711) Wells in Kayes/Mali?<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv8460560668ecxy_msg_container" id="yiv8460560668ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_13996"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv8460560668ecxyiv1579724980"><div id="yiv8460560668ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_14040"><div id="yiv8460560668ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1414711639080_14039" style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:13px;"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8460560668ecxyiv1579724980yui_3_16_0_1_1414608534879_250747"><span id="yiv8460560668ecxyiv1579724980yui_3_16_0_1_1414608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<div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>If it's useful:</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>-Example of recently constructed well in Didieni/Mali (<span style="font-size:12pt;">mounts of debris around, </span><span style="font-size:12pt;">walls don't rise above (redundant redundancy) the ground</span><span style="font-size:12pt;">):</span></div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://appropriateprojects.com/node/1022">http://appropriateprojects.com/node/1022</a></div><div><br clear="none"></div>-What seems new wells in Kayes, too (debris seen, walls not seen; seems square hole, possibly on the going of digging at the moment of satellite image):<div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id&%20#map=20/14.44191/-11.46058">http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id&%20#map=20/14.44191/-11.46058</a></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Screen Capture:</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><div id="yiv8460560668ecxyiv1579724980inlineImage1" style="display:inline-block;">    <span> </span>    <div class="yiv8460560668ecxyiv1579724980inlineImage" style="display:inline-block;"><img height="600" width="600"></div>    <span> </span></div><br clear="none"></div><div><div id="yiv8460560668ecxyiv1579724980inlineImage2" style="display:inline-block;">    <span> </span>    <div class="yiv8460560668ecxyiv1579724980inlineImage" style="display:inline-block;"><img height="600" width="600"></div>    <span> </span></div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Regards, </div><div>Sergio</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div>                                      </div></div><style>#yiv8460560668 #yiv8460560668 --
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