<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yiv0842751515"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1416948627769_37548"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1416948627769_37547"><div id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416948627769_29873"><span></span></div><div></div><div id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416948627769_29874" dir="ltr">Hey</div><div id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416948627769_29874" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416948627769_29874" dir="ltr">A few notes from talking this through with Josh</div><div id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416948627769_29874" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416948627769_29874" dir="ltr">* Requests for SkyBox imagery would go through the usual HOT imagery coordination process <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_activation#Imagery_Coordination" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1416948627769_41504">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_activation#Imagery_Coordination</a></div><div id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416948627769_29874" dir="ltr">* Use of SkyBox imagery for HOT activations would be coordinated through tasking manager projects.</div><div id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416948627769_29874" dir="ltr">* The listing of all SkyBox for good requests is at <a href="https://mapsengine.google.com/00979750194450688595-08887688179650036554-4/mapview/?authuser=0" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1416948627769_42661">https://mapsengine.google.com/00979750194450688595-08887688179650036554-4/mapview/?authuser=0</a>. We'd go through the coordination processes above, if a HOT activation wanted to use existing imagery.</div><div id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416948627769_29874" dir="ltr">* At the moment, there is no tile service. HOT would need to set up tiles from a downloaded GeoTIFF.</div><div id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416948627769_29874" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416948627769_29874" dir="ltr">Hope that clears things up.</div><div id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416948627769_29874" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416948627769_29874" dir="ltr">Btw, would be good to simply set up a test with one of the SkyBox for good GeoTIFFs, to see how it compares with Bing georeferencing and resolution.</div><div id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416948627769_29874" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416948627769_29874" dir="ltr">Best</div><div id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416948627769_29874" dir="ltr">Mikel</div><div id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416948627769_29874"> </div><div id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416948627769_29882"><div id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416948627769_29881"><br></div><div id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416948627769_29881">* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron</div></div> <div class="yiv0842751515qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1416948627769_37546"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv0842751515yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yiv0842751515yqt2637268020" id="yiv0842751515yqt15933"><div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:34 AM, Pierre Béland <pierzenh@yahoo.fr> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;margin-top:5px;padding-left:5px;"> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div class="yiv0842751515y_msg_container"><div id="yiv0842751515"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416747681919_35888"><span>These are great news for HOT Activations.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416747681919_35968"><br clear="none"><span></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416747681919_35970"><span id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416747681919_35969">In the context of the Ebola outbreak, we have large territories to cover in West Africa. There are various areas not yet well covered with high-res imagery. With the sudden resurgence in various areas, we have to try to find rapidly imagery. Imagery could be also helpful to do some prevention mapping in areas at risk, with limitroph regions having a spread of the epidemy. There are areas in east Guinea and West Ivory Coast with no high-res imagery.<br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416747681919_35972"><br clear="none"><span id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416747681919_35969"></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416747681919_35973"><span id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416747681919_35969">We have the capacity to mount a tms server. If there are Skymap imagery archives, What would help us is to have access to a catalog of metadata for this imagery and a protocol to request for imagery.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416747681919_36016"><span id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416747681919_35969"><br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416747681919_36015"><span id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416747681919_35969">regard </span></div><div id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416747681919_35886"> </div><div class="yiv0842751515signature" id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416747681919_35887"><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;">Pierre <br clear="none"></span></div><br clear="none"> <div id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416747681919_35976" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"> <div id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416747681919_35975" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr" id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416747681919_35974"> <hr id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416747681919_36014" size="1"> <font id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416747681919_35984" face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b> Michael Collinson <mike@ayeltd.biz><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">À :</span></b> Satoshi IIDA <nyampire@gmail.com>; Pat Tressel <ptressel@myuw.net> <br clear="none"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc :</span></b> hot <hot@openstreetmap.org> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b> Samedi 22 novembre 2014 2h52<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Objet :</span></b> Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv0842751515y_msg_container" id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416747681919_35977"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv0842751515yqt5427332755" id="yiv0842751515yqt40525"><div id="yiv0842751515"><div id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416747681919_35979">
<div class="yiv0842751515moz-cite-prefix" id="yiv0842751515yui_3_16_0_1_1416747681919_35978">Hi Satoshi,<br clear="none">
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Yes. My fault for delaying this but now done. Hence Josh'
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<ul><li>The provider is aware of what we will do with their imagery
and data derived from it.</li><li>The provider has given their explicit permission to include
derived data into the OSM database.<br clear="none">
</li><li>The proposed attribution mechanism, adding source to tags
and/or change sets is practical, (the imagery will only be
released in the context of HOT projects). I have also added a
new section for HOT under
<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv0842751515moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution</a> .<br clear="none">
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Mike<br clear="none">
LWG<br clear="none">
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On 22/11/2014 01:15, Satoshi IIDA wrote:<br clear="none">
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As my understanding, using Skybox imagery is a task for LWG
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<div class="yiv0842751515gmail_quote">2014-11-22 8:43 GMT+09:00 Pat Tressel <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ptressel@myuw.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:ptressel@myuw.net">ptressel@myuw.net</a>></span>:<br clear="none">
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<div dir="ltr">Josh --<br clear="none">
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<div><span><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">As
some of you may be aware, we recently
announced the </span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.skyboximaging.com/blog/introducing-skybox-for-good" style="text-decoration:none;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Skybox
for Good</span></a><span style="vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">
program.</span></font></span></div>
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<div><span><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">We
know that some of this imagery can be
especially useful in Crisis Response
situations, and therefore we are
explicitly authorizing usage of Skybox
for Good imagery in any current </span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_activation" style="text-decoration:none;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">HOT
Activation</span></a><span style="vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">,
under the condition that changesets
and/or features that are derived from
Skybox for Good imagery and committed to
OSM are attributed to Skybox.</span></font></span></div>
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<div>That's fantastic news!!<br clear="none">
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<div>Ok, folks, who gets to send the formal Thank
You....? I bet that's the communications working
group. And I also bet it's safe to infer a whole
bunch of individual thank-yous. ;-)<br clear="none">
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could, for example, include the method
of attributing Skybox as the "source",
or a similar method deemed appropriate
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<div>We had that older thread about imagery tagging,
where it came down to "source" (used since forever)
and the new, automatically-added "imagery_used" tag
in iD, which, it was pointed out, might not be
accurate if the user switches imagery temporarily --
would have to see what iD does in that case. One
thought -- maybe it would be good to add
"imagery_used" in JOSM with the same behavior as iD,
just so they're consistent. We'd keep adding
source, but imagery_used would be there as a
fallback. Task validators can also check for a
source tag, since a task usually specifies a set of
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