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<div>Absolutely, please help yourselves!</div><div><br></div><div>Also, the lovely people at CartONG did some translations into French, which they will be uploading to the drive soon, so look out for that...</div>
<div><br></div><div>The resources and workflows have been developed by the British Red Cross mapping team and a number of the HOTties who support the Missing Maps in London (to give credit where it's due). </div>
<div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Pete<br><br><b><font size="2">
Pete Masters</font></b><br><font size="2">Missing Maps Project Coordinator</font>
<br><font size="2">MSF UK<br>+44 7921 781 518<br></font><br><a href="https://twitter.com/TheMissingMaps">
<u><font size="3" color="#0000FF">@pedrito1414</font></u></a><font size="2">
<br></font><a href="https://twitter.com/TheMissingMaps"><u><font size="3" color="#0000FF">
@theMissingMaps</font></u></a><font size="2"><br></font><a href="https://www.facebook.com/MissingMapsProject">
<u><font size="3" color="#0000FF">facebook.com/MissingMapsProject</font>
</u></a><font size="2"><br></font><p><font size="3">Although I check emails more frequently, I work two days a week on the Missing Ma</font>
<font size="3">ps Project – if you want to catch me, </font><a href="https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=ui161p5fak6u6h3oq23824cgj0%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=Europe/London">
<u><font size="3" color="#0000FF">see this calendar</font></u></a><font size="2">
.</font></p></div><br><br><font color="#990099">-----Blake Girardot <bgirardot@gmail.com> wrote: -----</font>
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To: Pete Masters <Pete.Masters@london.msf.org><br>From: Blake Girardot <bgirardot@gmail.com><br>
Date: 04/01/2015 11:16PM<br>Cc: Hot List <hot@openstreetmap.org>, john whelan <jwhelan0112@gmail.com><br>
Subject: Re: [HOT] Task manager description/instructions #591<br><br><div>
<font face="Courier New,Courier,monospace" size="3">Wow, great resources.<br>
<br>I was looking for something like these for a mapping party recently.<br>
<br>Thank you, thank you, thank you for sharing them!<br><br>Would you mind if we put a few in the wiki or on LearnOSM with reference <br>
back to the source?<br><br>cheers,<br>Blake<br><br><br><br>On 1/4/2015 5:30 PM, Pete Masters wrote:<br>
> Hi all, this is an interesting thread for me as we realised pretty<br>
> quickly at the Missing Maps mapathons that we needed to work out how to<br>
> improve quality, while keeping the number of new mappers attending high.<br>
> I'd like to share some experiences, but apologies if you've heard them<br>
> before. I've only been on the HOT list since June...<br>><br>> Context talks and tutorials: We have short talks at the beginning to<br>
> introduce mappers to the country they are to map. This is immediately<br>
> followed by a tutorial from a HOTty for new mappers (using iD). These<br>
> tutorials have been vital since the first Missing Maps mapathon we did<br>
> in July and give the newbies a great place to start. However, it is not<br>
> uncommon for newbies to forget fundemental things very quickly. The<br>
> tutorial from November mapathon is here:<br>> <a href="https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Q2GqxWXyyOsP7t7GOrZAMttg4NbpK-xe5iB8v4iOeno/edit#slide=id.p">
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Q2GqxWXyyOsP7t7GOrZAMttg4NbpK-xe5iB8v4iOeno/edit#slide=id.p</a>
<br>><br>><br>> Table top resources: The Maps Team at the British Red Cross have<br>
> developed a load of different printable materials to go with the<br>
> mapathons. There are various materials here and they help mappers<br>
> overcome some of the more frequent problems they encounter. These are<br>
> kept on google drive and anyone is more than welcome to take what they<br>
> think might be useful.<br>> <a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_hW0KstPK1AenJDbDRFemtuMkU&authuser=0">
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_hW0KstPK1AenJDbDRFemtuMkU&authuser=0</a>
<br>> If you do develop any of these materials, please do make a new folder<br>
> and share them back on the same drive.<br>><br>> Images: We have also tried collecting images of the places being mapped<br>
> to help mappers interpret what they are seeing on the satellite imagery.<br>
> This has only recently been piloted, but some mappers have said it is<br>
> useful, especially where traditional building techniques are used that<br>
> make buildings hard to identify by someone from the UK! Pinterest boards<br>
> can be found here: <a href="http://www.pinterest.com/MissingMaps/">
http://www.pinterest.com/MissingMaps/</a><br>><br>> Validator tables: In the last couple of events, we have set aside a<br>
> validator table and invited the more committed, regular Missing Maps<br>
> attendees to learn validation (Laura who started this email chain is one<br>
> of them!). They sit with one or two experienced validators and review<br>
> the squares being done by people in the room. This has two benefits.<br>
> Firstly, we are (hopefully) training up some more validators for HOT<br>
> tasks (as they seem to be in short supply) and secondly, as these<br>
> validators spot repeat errors, they can actually go and find the mapper<br>
> in the room and help them put it right.<br>><br>> Last thing (and apologies for the length of this), on John's thoughts on<br>
> multiple passes for tasks... We have tried a two stage tasking process<br>
> when tracing in the Bangassou region of CAR. Because the area has a lot<br>
> of small villages spread over a wide area, we did one task (using large<br>
> squares) to trace the road networks. Then in the second task, we<br>
> identified residential areas and fed them into the tasking manager as a<br>
> geojson and set up building tracing using small squares. The feedback we<br>
> got suggested that this was an efficient way of handling an area of this<br>
> size.<br>><br>> Tasks<br>> Roads : <a href="http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/749">
http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/749</a><br>> Buildings : <a href="http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/748">
http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/748</a><br>><br>> Right, sorry for going on for so long. Look forward to more chat on this<br>
> subject...<br>><br>> Pete<br>><br>> *Pete Masters*<br>
> Missing Maps Project Coordinator<br>> MSF UK<br>> +44 7921 781 518<br>
><br>> _@pedrito1414_ <<a href="https://twitter.com/TheMissingMaps">
https://twitter.com/TheMissingMaps</a>><br>> _@theMissingMaps_ <<a href="https://twitter.com/TheMissingMaps">
https://twitter.com/TheMissingMaps</a>><br>> _facebook.com/MissingMapsProject _<br>
> <<a href="https://www.facebook.com/MissingMapsProject">https://www.facebook.com/MissingMapsProject</a>
><br>><br>> Although I check emails more frequently, I work two days a week on the<br>
> Missing Ma ps Project – if you want to catch me, _see this calendar_<br>
> <<a href="https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=ui161p5fak6u6h3oq23824cgj0%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=Europe/London">
https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=ui161p5fak6u6h3oq23824cgj0%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=Europe/London</a>
>.<br>><br>><br>><br>> -----Pierre Béland <pierzenh@yahoo.fr> wrote: -----<br>
> To: "bgirardot@gmail.com" <bgirardot@gmail.com>, john whelan<br>
> <jwhelan0112@gmail.com><br>> From: Pierre Béland <pierzenh@yahoo.fr><br>
> Date: 02/01/2015 07:03PM<br>> Cc: "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org><br>
> Subject: Re: [HOT] Task manager description/instructions #591<br>><br>
> It certainly simplifies to first trace the major roads. We did sometimes<br>
> trace in priority these roads, then landuse before mapping more in<br>
> detail. But this is Crisis management and we seldom have time to proceed<br>
> this way. We sometimes try to have the more experienced mappers to take<br>
> care of such tasks.<br>><br>> One area were I see that we can make progress controlling the mapping<br>
> qality is with the Mapathons. There were many Mapathons this fall,<br>
> either for the Ebola outbreak or for the Missing Maps project. This<br>
> brings a lot of new contributors learning how to map, making a lot of<br>
> mistakes that need later to be corrected.<br>><br>> A Mapathon Guide would help to provide tools for the organizers to take<br>
> care of the quality of the data and exchange with the participants to<br>
> realize the various mistakes and the good practices (ie. Imagery<br>
> interpretation, geometry, tags, etc.). This would be also more<br>
> stimulating for these new contributors and help to keep more of them on<br>
> the long term.<br>><br>> A tool like <a href="http://overpass-api.de/achavi/">
http://overpass-api.de/achavi/</a> could help. Some Overpass<br>> queries would also let monitor various layers such as buildings,<br>
> landuse, roads. This would both show the progress made and highlight<br>
> what should be corrected.<br>> Pierre<br>><br>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
> *De :* Blake Girardot <bgirardot@gmail.com><br>> *À :* john whelan <jwhelan0112@gmail.com><br>
> *Cc :* "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org><br>> *Envoyé le :* Vendredi 2 janvier 2015 10h57<br>
> *Objet :* Re: [HOT] Task manager description/instructions #591<br>
><br>><br>><br>> On 1/2/2015 3:41 PM, john whelan wrote:<br>
><br>> > How can we make the best use of what we have? I wonder if some sort of<br>
> > work flow might be better. Pass 1, do the major roads and towns /<br>
> > larger villages, Pass 2 rivers, pass 3 tracks, pass 4 forests etc.<br>
> > Perhaps rivers should come first?<br>><br>> Yes, this is for sure a good idea. Difficult to do in practice, but a<br>
> good idea.<br>><br>> >Certify the mappers, self<br>
> > certification would be fine but a small training course this is how to<br>
> > map a road, this is how to map a village, this is how to map a river,<br>
> > this is how to map a building (JOSM building tool?).<br>
><br>> Again, a very good idea, and the Training WG is considering something<br>
> like this.<br>><br>> None of the typical mapping tasks are difficult to do, but a little bit<br>
> of specific training, like 30 mins worth, can make a huge difference<br>
> between something that is mapped and something that is well mapped.<br>
><br>> It would really be great if we had a small training programing of some<br>
> sort, I think it could all be done on line with text and images. Again,<br>
> the Training WG is working on this idea so if anyone is interested in<br>
> helping with it please let us (training wg) know.<br>><br>> Or we could run online workshops for an hour or so to do mapping<br>
> training. At this point I have done 8 or 9 online training sessions and<br>
> they work out pretty well (I think :). I have also been very lucky and<br>
> received online training from Andrew Buck and Pierre Béland which was<br>
> immensely helpful.<br>><br>> > At the moment we seem to have a number of different people going over<br>
> > the same ground mapping the same things which to me is a waste of<br>
> > resources and no real agreement as to when a tile is complete, ie no<br>
> > service level agreement. I've even seen a building mapped over a<br>
> building.<br>><br>> Yes and no about the waste of resources. The system is designed so that<br>
> multiple eyes will look at the mapping. The obvious version of that is<br>
> the validation process, but even that needs multiple passes to make sure<br>
> things are validated correctly.<br>><br>> Project managers can "validate the validations" and experienced mappers,<br>
> currently self-selected, can also "validate validations".<br>><br>
> But multiple projects over the same area for either updates to imagery<br>
> or different mapping focuses (roads, waterways, etc) will lead to<br>
> validation of previous validations as well so there is a real benefit to<br>
> what seems like a waste of resources.<br>><br>> Just 2 passes over an area (initial mapping + validation) is not enough<br>
> to generate the highest quality data possible. In my experience so far a<br>
> minimum of 3 passes is needed to be sure you are getting high quality<br>
> data and the 2nd and 3rd passes are almost as much work as the first pass.<br>
><br>> Project managers or local OSM groups often give the mapping 3rd and 4th<br>
> passes to correct and refine the initial mapping data as well.<br>
><br>> With a simple and short training program for different types of mapping<br>
> things would improve some.<br>><br>> Thanks for the thoughts John.<br>
><br>><br>> cheers<br>> blake<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>
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