<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1425661809280_38214">Kretzer,</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1425661809280_38215"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1425661809280_38327">There are wetlands in this area and we see a derivation. It could be seasonal floods as you say but. A fixme tag would let ask evaluation from field teams. I suggest to add to such segments of highways the following tags</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1425661809280_38409">- flood_prone=yes</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1425661809280_38417" dir="ltr">- fixme=Validate if this segment is flooded some periods of the year.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1425661809280_38218" class="signature"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1425661809280_38220" style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;"> <br><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1425661809280_38219" face="garamond, new york, times, serif">Pierre </font><br></span></div><br> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1425661809280_38223" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1425661809280_38222" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1425661809280_38221" dir="ltr"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1425661809280_38268" size="1"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1425661809280_38226" size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b> Kretzer <kretzer@gmx.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">À :</span></b> "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org> <br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1425661809280_38225"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1425661809280_38224" style="font-weight: bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b> Vendredi 6 mars 2015 12h45<br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1425661809280_38228"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1425661809280_38227" style="font-weight: bold;">Objet :</span></b> [HOT] Fw: Aw: Re: #923 - Mayendit, South Sudan - highways to ditches?<br> </font> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1425661809280_38229" class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv6412901324"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1425661809280_38232"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1425661809280_38231" style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:12.0px;"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1425661809280_38230">sorry, I really meant "north-west" - top-left, that is ... confused ...
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1425661809280_38527" style="margin:0 0 10px 0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 06. März 2015 um 18:41 Uhr<br>
<b>Von:</b> Kretzer <kretzer@gmx.net><br>
<b>An:</b> "Vao Matua" <vaomatua@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Aw: Re: [HOT] #923 - Mayendit, South Sudan - highways to ditches?</div>
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Yes, I think the plane is landing on that very road, coming in from the north. I think I recognized this bypass (<a id="yui_3_16_0_1_1425661809280_38530" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/8.1476/30.0169">http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/8.1476/30.0169</a>) in the video at about 1:00.<br>
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But the road I was changing into a ditch was in the north east, clearly not visible as a major road and running straight into the big river.<br>
I think a lot of the area is flooded often, but have no local knowlegde whatsoever.<br>
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Gesendet: Freitag, 06. März 2015 um 18:27 Uhr<br>
Von: "Vao Matua" <vaomatua@gmail.com><br>
An: Kein Empfänger<br>
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Betreff: Re: [HOT] #923 - Mayendit, South Sudan - highways to ditches?<br>
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It appears that the Leer-Mayendit primary road in the north portion of the project is under construction in this imagery?<br>
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Is it flooded? There appears to be quite a bit of water in the video.<br>
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Any tag requirements?<br>
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Regards,<br>
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Emmor<br>
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On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 7:12 AM, Kretzer <kretzer@gmx.net> wrote:<br>
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Actually, I was considering mapping all the fences as well, because the patterns are really beautiful ...<br>
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Right now I took a brave (or stupid?) decision to change some long stretches from highway to "waterway=ditch". One was even tagged as "motorway_link"[<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dmotorway_link">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dmotorway_link</a>] .<br>
With the imagery it is often quite hard to tell the difference bewteen paths or raods and ditches, but it seems to make more sense that there are many drainage ditches in those wetlands. And the end is a giveaway: roads normally don't end in rivers .... <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/8.1729/29.9339&layers=H">http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/8.1729/29.9339&layers=H</a>[<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/8.1729/29.9339&layers=H">http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/8.1729/29.9339&layers=H</a>]<br>
I wasn't sure about the middle structure though, this could be path or ditch. maybe there are path running along such ditches.<br>
What do you think? Or doesn't it matter at all, as no humanitarian units would need this information for finding the people? (At least it does make sense to remove the motorway, I guess ...)<br>
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Also I found this video that shows some of the area: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jbDQNj6X_I">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jbDQNj6X_I</a>[<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jbDQNj6X_I">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jbDQNj6X_I</a>] - it does look quite wet there, but of course this will depend on the season.<br>
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Gesendet: Freitag, 06. März 2015 um 12:52 Uhr<br>
Von: "Severin Menard" <severin.menard@gmail.com[severin.menard@gmail.com]><br>
An: "Tom Taylor" <tom.taylor.stds@gmail.com[tom.taylor.stds@gmail.com]><br>
Cc: Kretzer <kretzer@gmx.net[kretzer@gmx.net]>, "hot@openstreetmap.org[hot@openstreetmap.org]" <hot@openstreetmap.org[hot@openstreetmap.org]><br>
Betreff: Re: [HOT] #923 - Mayendit, South Sudan - buildings and roads<br>
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Hello,<br>
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On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 12:42 AM, Tom Taylor <tom.taylor.stds@gmail.com[<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://tom.taylor.stds/">http://tom.taylor.stds</a>@gmail.com]> wrote:The larger round huts are dwellings, the smaller ones are storage. The linear items around the buildings and huts are walls (barrier=wall).<br>
In South Sudan, actually it is generally fences and not walls. Check on these pics[<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.google.com/search?q=mayendit&client=ubuntu&hs=nHs&channel=fs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Bo75VN6AGoHnUPrRgZAH&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAw#channel=fs&tbs=itp:photo&tbm=isch&q=village+south+sudan+trip">https://www.google.com/search?q=mayendit&client=ubuntu&hs=nHs&channel=fs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Bo75VN6AGoHnUPrRgZAH&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAw#channel=fs&tbs=itp:photo&tbm=isch&q=village+south+sudan+trip</a>]<br>
The buildings and huts should be labelled building=yes.<br>
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On 05/03/2015 7:00 PM, Kretzer wrote:<br>
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Hi,<br>
I have some questions about this new project:<br>
In the western part there are quite unusual structures, there are many buildings<br>
stretched in long lines. Like here:<br>
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/8.1325/29.9831&layers=H">http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/8.1325/29.9831&layers=H</a>[<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/8.1325/29.9831&layers=H">http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/8.1325/29.9831&layers=H</a>]<br>
I started mapping these as residential areas, unless there were only one or two<br>
single buildings - would you do that? Or is it better to just map the buildings?<br>
I can't even be sure there buildings are really used for permanent living, just<br>
assumed that. Maybe there is someone with mor knowledge of the area?<br>
I'm also curious what the many round strucures in the open area are. They could<br>
well be man-made, maybe something like haystacks (or whatever material would be<br>
collected there).<br>
Also I am unsure about the roads. There is one tagged as main road that's not<br>
even visible on the imagery. I guess that doesn't make sense (particularly as<br>
the other main road can clearly be seen as something like that), but didn't dare<br>
to touch the top-level structures.<br>
Thanks, and sorry again if I am asking in the wrong place!<br>
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