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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Henri & all, especially any 'new
mappers'<br>
<br>
We need two things which sometimes are in conflict with each
other.<br>
<br>
1. We're all part of a team, and we need to help each other
without causing offence. We all make mistakes, and it's nice to
have someone help us when we do - so validators, please consider
putting links to help pages when you are 'validating' - I've
listed LearnOSM because I know where they are, but there are other
excellent resources such as MapGive, tracing guides, quick start
guides. LearnOSM has largely been translated into numerous
languages so you may consider sending the link in a different
language - select the feature in your editor, then press 'Ctrl+h'
to see the history of the editing, which will tell you who did it,
rather than who updated Task Manager which is often different.
Always make sure the guide you are referring to has the same
instructions as the particular task/project, because they do vary.<br>
Mapping at the edge of a square
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://learnosm.org/en/coordination/remote/#initial-view---josm">http://learnosm.org/en/coordination/remote/#initial-view---josm</a><br>
or
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://learnosm.org/en/coordination/remote/#initial-view---id">http://learnosm.org/en/coordination/remote/#initial-view---id</a><br>
<br>
The highway network & more info about highways<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://learnosm.org/en/coordination/remote/#highways---how-to-map">http://learnosm.org/en/coordination/remote/#highways---how-to-map</a><br>
<br>
Residential boundary<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://learnosm.org/en/coordination/remote/#residential-boundaries">http://learnosm.org/en/coordination/remote/#residential-boundaries</a><br>
<br>
Buildings, including round huts <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://learnosm.org/en/coordination/remote/#buildings-compounds-amp-barriers">http://learnosm.org/en/coordination/remote/#buildings-compounds-amp-barriers</a><br>
<br>
<br>
2. The quality control for the particular project / task.<br>
<br>
In you're particular case, I would finish my square & then log
into that adjacent square & correct the mistakes - but only if
I am certain I am correct, because otherwise it's very
embarrassing!<br>
<br>
<br>
& Henri - you're starting to think like a validator - please
see
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data</a>
which was based upon work by Severin. If you are not ready to
validate yet, then you've made a good start because you've started
to realise what's needed. <br>
<br>
I'm pleased to say I'm still learning - I spend part of my time
learning & part helping with the mapping. Its a big subject
& I just hope we don't lose everyone once this drops out of
the news headlines. The Aid Organisations (NGO's) are dealing with
IDP's (Internally Displaced Persons) all of the time and have a
full time staff to do so - the need for adequate mapping will not
stop with Nepal.<br>
<br>
Thanks & I hope to see more of your work in the future.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Nick (Tallguy)<br>
tried to keep it brief, but didn't work!<br>
<br>
On 30/04/15 09:05, Henri Riihimäki wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Nick! <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">In my case the features didn’t go only a little
into the other tile, they went a lot (e.g. they were not
‘handed over’). The edge area instructions could be shortly
mentioned with the task instructions (sort of Do’s and
Dont’s ) so this kind of mistakes could be avoided. What
would be the proper way to correct them? Should I do it as I
spot the mistake or should I leave it to the person editing
the other tile (note: I have no idea whether the other guy
has noticed the mistake). I also find it problematic that I
can’t see the features that exist outside of my square, is
there a way to see them? (I’m using JOSM)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Henri<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US"> Nick Allen [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:nick.allen.54@gmail.com">mailto:nick.allen.54@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 30. huhtikuuta 2015 10:46<br>
<b>To:</b> Henri Riihimäki<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org">HOT@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [HOT] How to handle task edge areas
correctly?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>Henri<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Using my phone so briefly - see here<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://learnosm.org/en/coordination/remote/#checking-on-the-existing-data---id">http://learnosm.org/en/coordination/remote/#checking-on-the-existing-data---id</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Nick<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Volunteer 'Tallguy' for <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 30 Apr 2015 08:41, "Henri Riihimäki"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:henri.riihimaki@helsinki.fi">henri.riihimaki@helsinki.fi</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-US">Hello,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US">I am a beginner with HOT OSM. So far
I’ve mostly digitized buildings regarding the Gorkha
task (#1009). I’ve read the beginners tutorials but
I haven’t seen what is the proper way to handle edge
areas (maybe I’ve missed it).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US">E.g., </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US">1) if I find a road/path/track how that
goes beyond my tile, how far should I digitize it?
Only to the border of my task tile or as far as it
goes? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US">2) if I find mistakes from the edge
area that are within another tile or that goes
beyond my own tile, what should I do? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US">and in general 3) how are roads/tracks
connected between the tiles? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US">For example this morning I edited a
tile which had a lot of features that were poor in
quality. A lot of this data was in another tiles
area (landuse = residential). I get it that editing
another tiles area might create problems, but in the
other hand leaving poor quality data isn’t any good
either. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
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lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US">Link to task instructions: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1009"
target="_blank">http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1009</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
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lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US">Best regards, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US">Henri</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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