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<div>Hi Spring,</div>
<div>OpenStreetMap is definitely not a military style organisation ... I think it's not even a GIS-project in the stricter sense (rather a open database of spatial information).</div>
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<div>But I also think it IS a success. Like Wikipedia it is often chaotic, it is very often inconsistent and yet I am often in awe how much such a huge, unorganised crowd of volunteers can achieve - in both cases you get a wealth of information that you won't find from any commercial source. And that information can grow and improve organically, even if it naturally includes a lot of trial and error.</div>
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<div>It is just a very differnt system. I guess it helps to keep that in mind to inform your expectations. I like Michaels explanation that the crowd can do a lot to prepare the information (like *potential* landing sites, to prepare the groud for the experts).</div>
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<div style="margin:0 0 10px 0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 06. Mai 2015 um 07:41 Uhr<br/>
<b>Von:</b> "Springfield Harrison" <stellargps@gmail.com><br/>
<b>An:</b> "Denis Carriere" <carriere.denis@gmail.com>, "HOT@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org><br/>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [HOT] newbie needs advice</div>
<div name="quoted-content">Hello Master Cpl. Carriere,<br/>
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OK, glad to hear that. From the list of problems and concerns brought forward on the twitter session earlier, it definitely sounded like accuracy and consistency of the OSM editing might be suspect. Dragging their photos around to force the alignment of different features gives me the willies. What if the next volunteer drags it off in another direction? For me, this is a whole new loose approach to GIS which I have always thought of as highly disciplined and structured.<br/>
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However, if your hardcopy printouts are useful to the field crews, that is good. As a new person looking on from the edges and trying a few edits, the process does look a bit sketchy, but if it works, it works.<br/>
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As a 30+ year helicopter pilot, I did have some concern with the very skimpy helipad instructions. In high-altitude, rugged terrain there is much more to locating helipads than finding a 30 m flat square of ground. Is there any technical oversight by experienced pilots on this task?<br/>
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I assume that there are no current maps for this area, just the OSM edits? I did find some ASM 1950s mapping. Is there nothing newer than that?<br/>
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Thank you, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison<br/>
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At 05-05-2015 21:20 Tuesday, Denis Carriere wrote:<br/>
<blockquote class="cite"><font color="#3D85C6"><i>I'm not sure if succesful GIS is a crowd activity.</i></font><br/>
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<font color="#3D85C6"><i>I've asked but heard nothing about the end use of all this activity. Is it serving the folks on the ground?</i></font><br/>
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OSM crowd activity is very successful, speaking from the Canadian Forces DART deployed on the ground. I've printed so far 300+ hardcopy maps all made with 100% OSM data for people deployed in remote locations.<br/>
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@OSM Community: Keep up the great work! It's really making a difference!<br/>
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<b>Denis, MCpl Carriere</b><br/>
Canadian Forces<br/>
GIS Project Manager<br/>
OP Renaissance Nepal 2015<br/>
Twitter:Â <a href="https://twitter.com/DenisCarriere/" target="_blank">@DenisCarriere</a><br/>
OSM: <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/DenisCarriere" target="_blank"> DenisCarriere</a></i><br/>
Email: <a href="Carriere.Denis@gmail.com" target="_parent">Carriere.Denis@gmail.com</a></blockquote>
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