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    Thank you both for your feed back.<br>
    <br>
    John, what you say makes sense. So, for those who hang around, it
    goes back to good training, reading up on image interpretation,
    experience, knowing your limits and mentor ship (as Pierre
    suggests).<br>
    Pierre, I shall review the link, thanks.<br>
    <br>
    Graham<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    On 10/05/15 21:31, Pierre Béland wrote:<br>
    <blockquote
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        <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1431263626508_5669">This is a quite
          challenging mission, different terrain with these Nepal high
          mountains and after two weeks, less mediatic attention.</div>
        <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1431263626508_5670"><br>
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        <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1431263626508_5671">We need to
          re-accelerate this response and find ways to support newbies.
          They are as important as experienced conributors and we should
          help them progress. <br>
        </div>
        <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1431263626508_5891"><br>
        </div>
        <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1431263626508_5890">I suggest to the new
          contributors that want help to go on the Live #hot irc
          channel. <br>
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        <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1431263626508_5862">From this link, simply
          provide a nickname to identify yourself. You can type in to
          present yourself as a new contributor looking for a mentor. If
          you listen at the discussion on the #hot irc, you will se that
          this is quite informal and a pleasant place to meet with other
          contributors.<br>
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        <br>
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          <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1431263626508_5754">The core
            HOT / OSM contributors, could you please assure a rotation
            on the #hot irc to assure the support to the new
            contributors?</div>
          <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1431263626508_5753"><br>
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          <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1431263626508_5861"><br>
          </div>
          <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1431263626508_5752">Thanks all for the
            response for this emergency.<br>
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            <font face="garamond, new york, times, serif">Pierre </font><br>
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      style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Unfortunately

      a number of validated tiles have been identified as not being of
      high quality.  Self validation is one of the issues.<br>
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      style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">The second
      issue is time, it appears 76% of our new mappers only map for a
      day and never return.  We need to make best use of that time so we
      need tasks they can do easily with minimal training to get the
      most out of them.<br>
      <br>
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    Cheerio John  <br>
    <br>
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                size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b>
                graham <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:graham@klunky.co.uk"><graham@klunky.co.uk></a><br>
                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">À :</span></b>
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org">hot@openstreetmap.org</a> <br>
                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b>
                Dimanche 10 mai 2015 9h17<br>
                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Objet :</span></b>
                [HOT] Suggestion to support Newbie development via
                Validated work<br>
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              Hi All,<br>
              <br>
              Might I suggest a way that will allow Newbies to see
              examples of good <br>
              interpretation and digitalisation:<br>
              <br>
              In OSM Task Manager, they could select a "Validated" tile,
              open it and <br>
              look at the work completed. One would hope that the
              validated work is of <br>
              standard, but that is a different issue.<br>
              I tested this, and found that I could "invalidate" the
              work via a <br>
              button. I presume that I could actually make alterations
              to this work as <br>
              well. Neither of these two things I did.<br>
              <br>
              Perhaps, validated tiles could be accessible to Newbies to
              view only, <br>
              thus allowing them to review what is considered good work.
              However, <br>
              perhaps they should not have to ability to modify the
              work.<br>
              Selected tiles could be promoted as standard/quality etc.
              as the tiles <br>
              get validated.<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              Graham<br>
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