<p dir="ltr">Thank you for this conversation.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I call this the digital on ramp. We collectively need to decide what kind of community we want. There are growing joys. I firmly think that if we (OSM) are going to get to the next million people mapping in this locations around the world that we need to change. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Suzan's comment about kindness and Milo's comment about motivation are core. While we set up the tools and processes to grow and do the right thing, it is my hope that we keep the 'human' in our work. </p>
<p dir="ltr">For the past months I've been thinking about how people interact. At SOTM US I'll be talking about this. To sum- I work in Qatar. And I know that if my colleagues and the nascent local community of civic tech folks joined. They would likely not stay due to professionalism, language, engagement styles and manners. Relationship based cultures may participate differently. How can we change to be a welcome community with a better learning journey for all?</p>
<p dir="ltr">Believe me, I think about implementation and 'how do we get there'. I'll share the session notes and ask for all your help to keep up this momentum.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Thanks for this important dialogue.<br>
Heather</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 6, 2015 5:33 AM, "Milo van der Linden" <<a href="mailto:milo@dogodigi.net">milo@dogodigi.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra">It is my personal opinion that the level of expertise is less important then the motivation for people to participate and their abbility to adapt. As an example; What is better, a geospatial expert that is conceited or even cocky or a new mapper that has a lot of time and is eager to learn?<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Having a diverse crowd looks like the key to success. A crowd that consists of experts only leads to discussion, a crowd that consists of new mappers only mightl lead to less usable data, you need a "perfect mix". Putting in as much effort as possible from all involved is what is needed to reach quantity and quality. Quality is created in phases, molding rough and sometimes wrong activity into valuable information.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">This is why I oppose the idea of setting a bar. The door should be open to everyone. The focus should be on people who are eager to prticipate and get things done.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I do agree that the validation process is a different matter. The validators should preferably be directly involved with the organizing party and be well informed about the information necessary to accept a task as valid. And this doesn't always mean it has to be "perfect geometry" and "everything visible mapped". A hard thing to predefine!<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Kind regards,<br clear="all"></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br>-- <br><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><table style="width:353px;border:1px solid rgb(255,255,255);border-radius:5px 5px 5px 5px;padding:0.6em" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
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