<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Hi Blake, Rafael and Imre,<br><br></div>Thank you very much for all the good points. <br><br>I was actually thinking of some set of tags like the following:<br>health_facility:type=office<br>health_person:type=community (or community_relay or communitary, to be added to the list)<br>health_service:test=yes<br></div>disease:malaria=yes (that's the most common one)<br></div><div>temporary=yes (as some are specifically set up for the seasonal malaria peak)<br></div><div><br><div>I don't feel comfortable with tagging the building as hospital or adding amenity=doctors while this is what is used for proper health centers (even if I'd like it better to see those services also rendered).In the case described here, there are no doctors, not even nurses in those places and yet this is normal (it's not the case of a health center which should have doctors despite not having any).<br><br></div><div>Best,<br><br></div><div>Claire<br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-family:arial;font-size:small"><font color="#999999">Claire Halleux</font></div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-family:arial;font-size:small"><div><span style="color:rgb(153,153,153)">+243 81 611 6998 (Kinshasa, DRC)</span><font color="#999999"><br></font></div><div><font color="#999999">OpenStreetMap RDC<br></font></div><div><font color="#999999">Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team</font></div><div><font color="#999999"><br><a href="https://www.facebook.com/OpenStreetMap.RDC" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/OpenStreetMap.RDC</a><br></font></div></div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-family:arial;font-size:small"><a href="http://www.hotosm.org/" style="font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://www.hotosm.org/</a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Rafael Avila Coya <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ravilacoya@gmail.com" target="_blank">ravilacoya@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi, Imre:<br>
<br>
Yeah, after sending the email I remembered that.<br>
<br>
staff_count:nurses=* might be ok. Alternatively, we could use<br>
staff_count:paramedics=* or staff_count:therapists=*<br>
<br>
Another thing that I remembered and didn't say in my email:<br>
<br>
I would tag with a node over the facility. Facility building/s should be<br>
tagged as building=hospital (I always thing that a building=health tag<br>
or similar would be better...).<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Rafael.<br>
<span class=""><br>
On 21/09/15 15:40, Imre Samu wrote:<br>
> Hi Rafael,<br>
><br>
</span>> I will also add 2 more keys * * ( according to your documentation [2]<br>
> and data [1] )<br>
> - *staff_count:doctors=0 *( with the key: amenity=doctors ... this<br>
<span class="">> is a good indicator )<br>
</span>> *- staff_count:nurses=1 * ( 0...n ; number of health trained people )<br>
<span class="">><br>
> [1] overpass query: <a href="http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/bzt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/bzt</a> (<br>
> medical_system:western=* )<br>
> example node: <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3458635952" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3458635952</a><br>
> [2] <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_Nigeria_eHealth_Borno_Health_Facilities#Tagging_Plans" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_Nigeria_eHealth_Borno_Health_Facilities#Tagging_Plans</a><br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Imre<br>
><br>
><br>
> 2015-09-21 14:13 GMT+02:00 Rafael Avila Coya <<a href="mailto:ravilacoya@gmail.com">ravilacoya@gmail.com</a><br>
</span>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ravilacoya@gmail.com">ravilacoya@gmail.com</a>>>:<br>
<div><div class="h5">><br>
> Hi, Claire:<br>
><br>
> I had to deal with this already for a eHealth-collected health<br>
> facilities import in Borno State, Nigeria [1]. I used the HealthCare2.0<br>
> tagging schema (as Blake is also suggesting too), adding some<br>
> traditional tags for rendering purposes.<br>
><br>
> For this kind of facilities, I would suggest the following:<br>
><br>
> For all facilities:<br>
><br>
> 1. medical_system:western=yes<br>
><br>
> 2. health_facility:type=office<br>
> 3. office=paramedic OR office=therapist<br>
><br>
> 4. health_specialty:paediatric_gastroenterology=partial/no #For children<br>
> diarrheal diseases<br>
> 5. health_specialty:tropical_medicine=partial/no #Malaria and others<br>
> 6. health_specialty:pulmonology=partial/no #For pulmonar diseases<br>
><br>
> 7. amenity=doctors #This is for compatibility with traditional health<br>
> care tagging<br>
><br>
> I would also add to all of them:<br>
><br>
> 8. power_supply=yes/no/unknown #It might be interesting to know if<br>
> electricity is available.<br>
><br>
> Only in case health_specialty:tropical_medicine=partial, add:<br>
><br>
> 9. disease:malaria=yes<br>
><br>
> You might add diarrhea diseases too, like<br>
> disease:amoebic_dysentery=yes/no , etc., always in case<br>
> health_specialty:paediatric_gastroenterology=partial<br>
><br>
> Other optional tags:<br>
><br>
> 10. opening_hours=*<br>
> 11. operator=*<br>
> 12. operator:type=public/private/...<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
><br>
> Rafael.<br>
><br>
> [1]<br>
> <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_Nigeria_eHealth_Borno_Health_Facilities#Tagging_Plans" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_Nigeria_eHealth_Borno_Health_Facilities#Tagging_Plans</a><br>
><br>
> On 21/09/15 12:45, Blake Girardot wrote:<br>
> > Hi Claire,<br>
> ><br>
> > It is a bit long and kind of complicated, but do you think a<br>
> combination<br>
> > of the healthcare 2.0 proposal could address the facilities?<br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Healthcare_2.0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Healthcare_2.0</a><br>
> ><br>
> > It does say part of its goal was to deal with community based<br>
> services.<br>
> ><br>
> > Maybe we need to add some possible values to the existing proposal.<br>
> ><br>
> > Lets get this sorted out.<br>
> ><br>
> > Cheers,<br>
> > Blake<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On 9/21/2015 9:52 AM, Claire Halleux wrote:<br>
> >> (English below)<br>
> >><br>
> >> Bonjour à tous,<br>
> >> Au Sud-Kivu, on rencontre régulièrement des "sites de soins<br>
> >> communautaires", c'est à dire des lieux où l'on peut s'adresser à des<br>
> >> relais communautaires (membres de la communauté) ayant reçu une<br>
> >> formation spécifique au diagnostic du palu en général mais<br>
> parfois aussi<br>
> >> pour les infections respiratoires et les diarrhées des enfants. Ils<br>
> >> disposent généralement de médicaments, fournis par des organisations<br>
> >> médicales. .<br>
> >> Ce service est très utile en particulier dans les zones rurales ne<br>
> >> disposant pas de centre de santé. Cependant, les relais<br>
> communautaires<br>
> >> n'étant pas des docteurs, je me retrouve actuellement face à la<br>
> >> difficulté de trouver les tags appropriés. Des idées ou tags à me<br>
> >> suggérer? Merci d'avance.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Hi everyone,<br>
> >> In South Kivu, we regularly meet "community-based healthcare sites",<br>
> >> i.e. places where you can find some people from the community who<br>
> got a<br>
> >> basic training about malaria testing, + sometimes pulmonary<br>
> infections<br>
> >> and children diarrheal diseases diagnostics. They are usually<br>
> supplied<br>
> >> with medicines by medical organisations.<br>
> >> This service is quite useful as it helps treating patients (specially<br>
> >> children) closer to the place they live, in particular in rural areas<br>
> >> where you can't find any health center or doctor.<br>
> >> I'm currently facing the issue of tagging this kind of place. Any tag<br>
> >> suggestion would be much appreciated.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Best,<br>
> >><br>
> >> Claire<br>
> >><br>
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