<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Hi Rod,<br><br></div>I agree we should let TMS for WMTS, that is also now available in JOSM imagery settings. <br><br></div>Sincerely,<br><br></div>Severin<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Rod Bera <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rod@goarem.org" target="_blank">rod@goarem.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Pierre and Noah,<br>
<br>
I like to add my 2 cents. Sorry in advance for not bringing a solution<br>
but instead here's a general suggestion:<br>
<br>
Maybe the OSM community should move to OGC's WMTS.<br>
TMS proves useful, is supposed to be fast, but so does WMTS.<br>
<br>
Moreover, WMTS is an OGC standard, and works fine with other OGC standards.<br>
You can therefore use them together: WMTS for quick display, WMS for<br>
rendering, WFS or WCS for querying, CSW for metadata, etc. And since OGC<br>
has its weight clients to handle these standard (esp. QGIS) are<br>
developed in priority.<br>
In my view building bridges and making transparent the interoperability<br>
between OSM and OGC is a priority as OSM is being largely used in the<br>
world of spatial data infrastructures (SDI) as a base map but also as a<br>
source for layer extraction. Reversely, SDIs can serve data and layers<br>
for OSM mapping.<br>
<br>
Well, at this point maybe I should give an example.<br>
<br>
here:<br>
<a href="http://geoxxx.agrocampus-ouest.fr/mapfishapp?lang=en/map/8645aa4aef0ce2dde95ecf4e21e7bf10" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://geoxxx.agrocampus-ouest.fr/mapfishapp?lang=en/map/8645aa4aef0ce2dde95ecf4e21e7bf10</a><br>
<br>
This is OSM data uploaded onto an SDI during the mapping action in Cote<br>
d'Ivoire last week. Nice and versatile, as this is opens numberless ways<br>
to reuse OSM data and probably make them reach e.g. people who are<br>
strictly not into OSM and tech ("common" people, local councils, etc.<br>
those who infrequently use google maps...).<br>
<br>
To add a note on bridges:<br>
<br>
*here the SDI is using OSM as a base map (wms! and really quick, thanks<br>
to <a href="http://www.osm-wms.de/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.osm-wms.de/</a>; <a href="http://ows.terrestris.de/dienste.html#wms" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://ows.terrestris.de/dienste.html#wms</a>;<br>
the wms url you can cut-paste in qgis:<br>
<a href="http://ows.terrestris.de/osm/service" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://ows.terrestris.de/osm/service</a>?)<br>
<br>
*in menu "espace de travail" ("workspace". Prefer it in english ? then<br>
reload as<br>
<a href="http://geoxxx.agrocampus-ouest.fr/mapfishapp/map/8645aa4aef0ce2dde95ecf4e21e7bf10?lang=en" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://geoxxx.agrocampus-ouest.fr/mapfishapp/map/8645aa4aef0ce2dde95ecf4e21e7bf10?lang=en</a><br>
; same holds for es, de, ru) you can move to OSM's editing tools (ID,<br>
Potlatch, Josm)<br>
<br>
*in menu outils/tools you can load extra tools. One of them is "OSM to<br>
geOrchestra". You can add a layer to the viewer based on overpass queries.<br>
<br>
<br>
As you see the convergence between OSM and SDIs is on its way, but there<br>
is a lot that can be done. And OGC standards are a key.<br>
<br>
Some more details on this SDI. It was set up for teaching and training<br>
and the underlying techno is geOrchestra (<a href="http://www.georchestra.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.georchestra.org/</a>).<br>
It's FOSS, makes a full use of OGC standards (as mentioned earlier), and<br>
stands on the shoulders of "geogiants" (GeoServer, GeoNetwork,<br>
Openlayers, etc.)<br>
And as geOrchestra is modular, you can easily replace or remove some of<br>
these (e.g. not running a GeoNetwork, or use Mapserver instead of GS, etc.)<br>
<br>
Unfortunately, all this can't be achieved just with TMS. We definitely<br>
need to use OGC web services as much as possible, and several at a time.<br>
<br>
Rod<br>
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On 13/10/15 03:37, Pierre Béland wrote:<br>
> Hi Noah,<br>
><br>
> No I dont know. But you can try either to search the archives of the<br>
> QGIS users group or contact the list<br>
> <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-user/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-user/</a><br>
> regard<br>
><br>
> Pierre<br>
><br>
</span>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
<span class="">> *De :* noah ahles <<a href="mailto:noah.ahles@gmail.com">noah.ahles@gmail.com</a>><br>
</span>> *À :* Pierre Béland <<a href="mailto:pierzenh@yahoo.fr">pierzenh@yahoo.fr</a>><br>
> *Cc :* hot <<a href="mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org">hot@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>
> *Envoyé le :* Lundi 12 octobre 2015 21h13<br>
> *Objet :* Re: [HOT] Using TMS Within QGIS<br>
<span class="">><br>
> Hi Pierre,<br>
><br>
> Do you know of anyone who does use these TMS layers within QGIS? I am<br>
> very interested in making this work. Not sure why my .tsv files are<br>
> causing an error.<br>
><br>
> Best,<br>
> Noah<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:57 PM, noah ahles <<a href="mailto:noah.ahles@gmail.com">noah.ahles@gmail.com</a><br>
</span><span class="">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:noah.ahles@gmail.com">noah.ahles@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Pierre,<br>
><br>
> I have been using the TileLayer Plugin with the same syntax but I<br>
> keep getting this error downloading message:<br>
</span><span class="">> Inline image 1<br>
><br>
> It seems to recognize the files I am trying to download but can't<br>
> access them for some reason.<br>
><br>
> Syntax:<br>
> Martadi DigitalGlobe, 2015-05-10<br>
> <a href="http://mw1.gstatic.com/crisisresponse/firstlook/2015/firstlook_PO_054370506010_01_2015_05_13_maptiles/{x}_{y}_{z}.png" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mw1.gstatic.com/crisisresponse/firstlook/2015/firstlook_PO_054370506010_01_2015_05_13_maptiles/{x}_{y}_{z}.png</a><br>
</span>> <<a href="http://mw1.gstatic.com/crisisresponse/firstlook/2015/firstlook_PO_054370506010_01_2015_05_13_maptiles/%7Bx%7D_%7By%7D_%7Bz%7D.png" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mw1.gstatic.com/crisisresponse/firstlook/2015/firstlook_PO_054370506010_01_2015_05_13_maptiles/%7Bx%7D_%7By%7D_%7Bz%7D.png</a>><br>
<span class="">><br>
> Noah<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:56 PM, <<a href="mailto:pierzenh@yahoo.fr">pierzenh@yahoo.fr</a><br>
</span><span class="">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:pierzenh@yahoo.fr">pierzenh@yahoo.fr</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Noah,<br>
><br>
> You need to install the Tilelayer Plugin. From Internet /<br>
> OpenLayers plugin Menu, this provides a list of available tms<br>
> layers such as osm.<br>
><br>
> I have not tried adding a custom layer in QGIS, but the<br>
> TileLayerPlugin github page describes how to specify custom layers.<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://github.com/minorua/TileLayerPlugin" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/minorua/TileLayerPlugin</a><br>
> Example of the syntax recognized by this plugin<br>
> |RoadMap FreeTileMap<br>
> <a href="http://freetilemap.example.com/road/{z}/{x}/{y}.png" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://freetilemap.example.com/road/{z}/{x}/{y}.png</a><br>
</span>> <<a href="http://freetilemap.example.com/road/%7Bz%7D/%7Bx%7D/%7By%7D.png" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://freetilemap.example.com/road/%7Bz%7D/%7Bx%7D/%7By%7D.png</a>>|<br>
<span class="">><br>
> You would then have to convert the link provided in the Nepal<br>
> Imagery wiki page for Martadi replacing {zom} by {z}<br>
> <a href="http://mw1.gstatic.com/crisisresponse/firstlook/2015/firstlook_PO_054370506010_01_2015_05_13_maptiles/{x}_{y}_{z}.png" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mw1.gstatic.com/crisisresponse/firstlook/2015/firstlook_PO_054370506010_01_2015_05_13_maptiles/{x}_{y}_{z}.png</a><br>
</span>> <<a href="http://mw1.gstatic.com/crisisresponse/firstlook/2015/firstlook_PO_054370506010_01_2015_05_13_maptiles/%7Bx%7D_%7By%7D_%7Bzoom%7D.png" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mw1.gstatic.com/crisisresponse/firstlook/2015/firstlook_PO_054370506010_01_2015_05_13_maptiles/%7Bx%7D_%7By%7D_%7Bzoom%7D.png</a>><br>
><br>
> Pierre<br>
><br>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
<span class="">> *De :* noah ahles <<a href="mailto:noah.ahles@gmail.com">noah.ahles@gmail.com</a><br>
</span>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:noah.ahles@gmail.com">noah.ahles@gmail.com</a>>><br>
> *À :* hot <<a href="mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org">hot@openstreetmap.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org">hot@openstreetmap.org</a>>><br>
> *Envoyé le :* Jeudi 8 octobre 2015 11h25<br>
> *Objet :* [HOT] Using TMS Within QGIS<br>
<div><div class="h5">><br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> I'm trying to figure out how to bring in Tile Mapping Service<br>
> within QGIS using the TileLayer plugin. I have attached a .tsv<br>
> file that I am using to try and access the Martadi imagery tiles<br>
> from this<br>
> page: <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nepal_imagery_hosted_by_Google_Crisis_Response" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nepal_imagery_hosted_by_Google_Crisis_Response</a><br>
><br>
> Please let me know if you have any suggestions for how to get<br>
> this to work. I want to create educational materials (labs) to<br>
> show how OSM data/imagery can be used to explore world events in<br>
> great detail and tell a story about how certain data is actually<br>
> being utilized on the ground. For example, a module may be:<br>
><br>
> a. Using the imagery and available data identify all of the IDP<br>
> camps in a neighborhood of Kathmandu<br>
> b. Estimate the population density assuming 3 people per X<br>
> square meters of tent<br>
> c. Given some total amount of resources (food, water, medical<br>
> supplies, clothing etc.), allocate X amount of resources to each<br>
> IDP camp based on that population density<br>
> d. Determine how long it will take to get to each camp assuming<br>
> an average speed of X km/hour while taking into account downed<br>
> bridges and blocked roads<br>
><br>
> Getting imagery into QGIS is my biggest hurdle so far!<br>
><br>
> Best,<br>
> Noah<br>
><br>
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