<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Hi Robert,<br><br>I'm sending you a few contacts separately.<br>Regarding, this topic, I'd love to exchange more about it and we could involve a few UNHCR people too.<br></div>The camp mapping page on the wiki could serve as a base for discussion.<br><br></div>Best,<br><br></div>Claire<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-family:arial;font-size:small"><font color="#999999">Claire Halleux</font></div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-family:arial;font-size:small"><div><span style="color:rgb(153,153,153)">+243 81 611 6998 (Kinshasa, DRC)</span><font color="#999999"><br></font></div><div><font color="#999999">OpenStreetMap RDC<br></font></div><div><font color="#999999">Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team</font></div><div><font color="#999999"><br><a href="https://www.facebook.com/OpenStreetMap.RDC" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/OpenStreetMap.RDC</a><br></font></div></div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-family:arial;font-size:small"><a href="http://www.hotosm.org/" style="font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://www.hotosm.org/</a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 4:33 AM, Robert Banick <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rbanick@gmail.com" target="_blank">rbanick@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">FYI all. My contacts at REACH have moved on from it, does anyone here have contacts with the current REACH Jordan team?</p>
<p dir="ltr">In a larger sense these questions of sustainability and long-term accuracy will be a recurring issue for humanitarian mapping of camps so it would be good to explore this topic more. I would type some thoughts but I'm on a tiny phone screen right now.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: "Frederik Ramm" <<a href="mailto:frederik@remote.org" target="_blank">frederik@remote.org</a>><br>Date: 21 Dec 2015 06:00<br>Subject: [OSM-talk] Zaatari refugee camp, Jordan / UNHCR / REACH<br>To: "Talk Openstreetmap" <<a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>Cc: <br><br type="attribution">Hi,<br>
<br>
I see that there's a lot of detail mapped at this refugee camp<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=32.29460120201111&mlon=36.3242769241333#map=14/32.2946/36.3243" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=32.29460120201111&mlon=36.3242769241333#map=14/32.2946/36.3243</a><br>
<br>
but when inspecting things more closely, most information seems to come<br>
from imports that are more than a year old.<br>
<br>
How stable are camps like this - is it prudent to assume that either<br>
<br>
(a) if there was a greengrocer two years ago in a place, it will likely<br>
still be there?<br>
<br>
or<br>
<br>
(b) the people who have imported data two years ago as part of their<br>
job/project/assignment will still be around and change things as necessary?<br>
<br>
or<br>
<br>
(c) people living in the camp have the necessary training and resources<br>
to take map updates into their own hands?<br>
<br>
I'd love to get in touch with people who mapped this camp, or others in<br>
the more recent past, for a couple of general refugee camp mapping<br>
questions.<br>
<br>
Bye<br>
Frederik<br>
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