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<div>Hello Joost, Hello John,</div>
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<div>that would be great!</div>
<div>I helped out with "live" validation on several mapathons, in most cases without even knowing the organisers because i found the mapapthon by coincidence. Some kind of central announcement for mapathons would be very helpful, _including_ the HOT task numbers that are being worked on. </div>
<div> To ensure an early effect of the validation, organisers of a mapathon should also inform new mappers about the message system of the TM. The faster they read the feedback, the better.</div>
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<div>Best regards</div>
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<div>Henning (hebolz)</div>
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<div style="margin:0 0 10px 0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 01. April 2016 um 09:46 Uhr<br/>
<b>Von:</b> "joost schouppe" <joost.schouppe@gmail.com><br/>
<b>An:</b> "john whelan" <jwhelan0112@gmail.com><br/>
<b>Cc:</b> "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org><br/>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [HOT] Request to those organising a maperthon.</div>
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<div>Yes, that first version with letters written in blood was a bit over the top. Versions six is wonderful though.
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<div>Small tiles are always a good idea for new mappers, as it is motivating to be able to finish a tile. However, I often do see mappers forgetting to mark their tiles as finished. So I'm going to focus more on that at future events.</div>
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<div>We had someone remote validating by chance at one of our events, and that was really useful. But mapathons tend to focus on "empty" projects, as new mappers get confused if they choose a tile which is badly mapped but not marked as validated - which does happen a lot. So the chance of finding a validator active there is quite small.</div>
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<div>It might be good if we set up a system to make it easier for validators and event organizers to find each other? Newer organizers might not come here to announce their event. And even putting them in the calendar isn't very obvious. The most simple thing I can think of is to put "contact the HOT mailing list once you've set a date and task, to see if someone might do some live validation". What would you suggest?</div>
<div>This is a very practical question, as we're helping out a national organisation of universities pull off a mapathon in 7 universities simultaneously. See <a href="http://www.internationalmapyear.be/mapathon.php" target="_blank">http://www.internationalmapyear.be/mapathon.php</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2016-04-01 2:51 GMT+02:00 john whelan <span><<a href="jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_parent">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>></span>:
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: verdana , sans-serif;font-size: small;">If you notice that the project you're planning to use has an active validator please if possible give them some warning before your maperthon. Finding a dozen tiles suddenly mapped by new mappers can be wonderful but finding tiles marked done by a mapper who has not actually added anything when there are a dozen settlements unmapped on the first, then settlements but no highways at all on the second one examined does tend to dump on the validator.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: verdana , sans-serif;font-size: small;">If there is a bit of prior warning sometimes additional resources can be found to validate.<br/>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: verdana , sans-serif;font-size: small;">Secondly for new mappers please split the tiles as much as possible. That gives the validator a chance to correct the mappers before they repeat the errors too many times.<br/>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: verdana , sans-serif;font-size: small;">So far on this particular project groups of buildings have been tagged building=residential rather than landuse=residential, then we have landuse=residential, great but with the additional tag of name=houses so be nice and verify your training guides are simple and clear to understand.<br/>
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Yes I know I'm supposed to be polite and say everything is wonderful, this is the very polite version the first five versions have been heavily censored.<br/>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: verdana , sans-serif;font-size: small;">Many Thanks<br/>
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<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">John</font></span></div>
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